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Murdoch
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

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Not sure what I expected, but after days of talks. They literally just release a letter regurgitating all the soundbites from before the ACAS talks started.

That's not good enough, I want to hear some details of what's been discussed, what are the sticking points.

At the end of the day, if the Company will not budge, then it's the role of the Union to agree the best deal available, and then put it to members.

I think by this point, we all know "a good deal" isn't possible. At this rate, if we strike over xmas, even a bad deal might not be possible.
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chickenwittle wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:03
arsenalbob wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 17:52
badger1 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 17:01
I think a lot will go in the next strike days, most have zero confidence in top union officials. Once December is done so are we. Management willing to lose the the battle of Xmas to win the war. Everything will be bought in by executive action for the future of the company, as they see it. If everyone is totally honest the next few strikes up to Xmas is throwing your money away.
Hate writing this as most of you hate reading it but it’s true, we have lost.
As much as Royal Mail need a change at the top so do we.
Mate, you sound like you’re standing on top of Beachy Head. Stay calm I’ll come and talk you down.
Badger by name badger by nature.
Sorry , your right the whole thing is going really, really well. Apologies
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An example of another failed privatisation! Royal mail set up and expanded GLS to help cross subsidise the uso. Now the locusts have eaten everything royal mail has to offer and are looking for their next easy meal.

The government has failed us the workers, it's failed the royal mail, its failed the uso and it's failed every single member of the public. It sold off OUR royal mail to locust assent strippers intent on ripping royalmail to pieces to line their pockets.

The government needs to buy royalmail back now, and thanks to Simon Thompson who couldnt run a bath. It's going cheap! They then need to remove the failed experiment that is DSA and then run royalmail for the good of the people and businesses of the UK putting the service at the heart of the business.
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^^^^^
Exactly that ^^^^
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

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claystones wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:02
10 days of talks and nothings changed what a joke
Why are people surprised? Thompson said nothing would be changing after the joint statement. He said it was the best deal that could be done.
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Dorset Plodder wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 17:54
[quote=CRIBMAD post_id=1010542 time=1668620793 user_id=82018

- BRING ON VR I will be first to volunteer !

What for the minimum LEGAL ammount that RM will pay (I think that's 9 months wages)? :cuppa
U BET !
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I think its six 🥴
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

Post by toonshola »

citypostie wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:18
claystones wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:02
10 days of talks and nothings changed what a joke
Why are people surprised? Thompson said nothing would be changing after the joint statement. He said it was the best deal that could be done.
Exactly. And Dave Ward was a clown for giving false hope the company might negotiate. Thompson put it in writing there will be no improved offer. Tomorrow is going to bring a whole lot of gloom I fear.
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

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Chitchat wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:13
An example of another failed privatisation! Royal mail set up and expanded GLS to help cross subsidise the uso. Now the locusts have eaten everything royal mail has to offer and are looking for their next easy meal.

The government has failed us the workers, it's failed the royal mail, its failed the uso and it's failed every single member of the public. It sold off OUR royal mail to locust assent strippers intent on ripping royalmail to pieces to line their pockets.

The government needs to buy royalmail back now, and thanks to Simon Thompson who couldnt run a bath. It's going cheap! They then need to remove the failed experiment that is DSA and then run royalmail for the good of the people and businesses of the UK putting the service at the heart of the business.
That's literally what the Tories do.

They've asset stripped the whole country.

Yet they keep getting voted in. :thumbup
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Chitchat wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:13
An example of another failed privatisation! Royal mail set up and expanded GLS to help cross subsidise the uso. Now the locusts have eaten everything royal mail has to offer and are looking for their next easy meal.

The government has failed us the workers, it's failed the royal mail, its failed the uso and it's failed every single member of the public. It sold off OUR royal mail to locust assent strippers intent on ripping royalmail to pieces to line their pockets.

The government needs to buy royalmail back now, and thanks to Simon Thompson who couldnt run a bath. It's going cheap! They then need to remove the failed experiment that is DSA and then run royalmail for the good of the people and businesses of the UK putting the service at the heart of the business.
You're living in total dreamland if you ever expect the Tories to take us back into public funds, they've even rubber stamp our takeover by Vesa Equity.
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Chitchat wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 18:13
An example of another failed privatisation! Royal mail set up and expanded GLS to help cross subsidise the uso. Now the locusts have eaten everything royal mail has to offer and are looking for their next easy meal.

The government has failed us the workers, it's failed the royal mail, its failed the uso and it's failed every single member of the public. It sold off OUR royal mail to locust assent strippers intent on ripping royalmail to pieces to line their pockets.

The government needs to buy royalmail back now, and thanks to Simon Thompson who couldnt run a bath. It's going cheap! They then need to remove the failed experiment that is DSA and then run royalmail for the good of the people and businesses of the UK putting the service at the heart of the business.
It's not for the good of the people though is it? It's for the good of us lot, whose jobs will all be secure and people wanting the days back of being finished at 10 - 11 o'clock everyday. The government are not gonna buy us back, certainly not this one, and the incoming (probably) Labour government haven't given any indication that they'd do the same. We need to get over this pipe dream.
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

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Look people, stop trying to over think whats going on and stressing yourselves out its all part of Simple slymans plan, having been around a year or two longer than most i can see theres something going on behind the scenes, perhaps tomorrows great announcement to the market will give us some insight into what is going on but perhaps not, the main thing to remember is back your union because if you dont it really will be the end. I fancy no matter what we do the CEOs agenda is never going to match ours and no matter what we agree to he will just push the boundaries back to keep us in dispute until he gets what he and the board are really after and usually that involves a lot of cash....... they probably just see us and royal mail as collateral damage and will go on their merry way. If i am wrong i will be pleasantly surprised. The thing is in this situation until it plays out all you are doing is guessing and stressing.
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Xmas looks fun this year.
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

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Where’s the December strike dates?
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Re: Latest Update from CWU

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CRIBMAD wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 17:46
sindba wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 17:40
Cucumber wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 17:36
Reads like the CWU have finally been shown the balance sheet, and it ain't good.
That's what I thought.

But the bottom line is the strikes are still on unless there's a miracle breakthrough this week.
says it all when they are not willing to put things in writing

- BRING ON VR I will be first to volunteer !
No you won't , i'm first lol. Why can't the cwu accept 10000 job losses? Pleeeeease accept it and let some of your members go with a bit of a handshake although not a golden one , maybe bronze.