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Unagreed trial into a frameless office
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roman
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Can’t the orange bar codes be put on the on the other way so the letters are not upside down ?
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roman
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Can’t the orange bar codes be put on the other side so the letters come up the right way ?
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SpacePhoenix
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pieoftheday
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Any confirmation on which office/offices have gone frameless?
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
That appears to be a closely guarded secretpieoftheday wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:55Any confirmation on which office/offices have gone frameless?
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pieoftheday
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Yes,very mysteriousted_e_bear wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:58That appears to be a closely guarded secretpieoftheday wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:55Any confirmation on which office/offices have gone frameless?
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norris9
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
What does this even mean?
What is the definition of a letter?
I assume when people say 'letters are down' - it's the mech they are talking about....
The letters I have each day are plenty to keep me going for my working hours and more...
Junk mail's surely been going up. I deliver tonnes of it. Some households seem to have 3 to 10 pieces of junk mail a day. Some people absolutely love junk mail....
Magazines are also highly likely up.
Sim Cards come as letters.
I can understand if bank statements are down as that went digital years ago. Still, TV license harassment letters, bills, NHS, Council letters are common.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
If you exclude bulk postings, even manual letters are down, only needs a couple of staff for most of the night
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pieoftheday
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
I havnt seen a noticeable reduction in the letters I deliver. A reduction in live stuff yes(with stamps on) but overall , no
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Which office has no frames?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:31If you exclude bulk postings, even manual letters are down, only needs a couple of staff for most of the night
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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pieoftheday
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
The suspense is killing us!Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:54Which office has no frames?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:31If you exclude bulk postings, even manual letters are down, only needs a couple of staff for most of the night
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Haitch P
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
We have walk sorted packets, just started today.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 20:12The office I know of have ALREADY had all their frames removed (wouldn't surprise me if the removed frames have been scrapped already)
Nope, parcels don't get walk sorted in MCs, it's physically impossible and would take up way too much space on the lorries. The sorting of the parcels to walks will continue to happen in the DOs
The national workplan is for wave 2 to be walk sort only. Wave 1 will only end up being walk sorted if there's a major machine breakdown or there's more work than machine capacity and staffing levels allow
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DGH
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Do you have any idea how difficult that would be to achieve? Especially in an area that contains either industrial estates or significant new builds.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:37Some of the problems can be eliminated by the nominated person at a DO making sure that all the entries in Route Planner are always fully up to date, which would mean a greater % of the mail would arrive in the DOs sequenced.
Very difficult indeed is the answer, especially as some poor chump would have to be released to actually do it. But then the other staff need to be released in rotation to give them information on change. Sure, once it's more or less (say 95-99% correct), keeping on top of it for most walks will be relatively low in terms of time taken. But businesses move in and out of units on a regular basis - sometimes just moving to a different part of the same estate. Often business names and addresses are entered incorrectly in the database and the necessary changes have to wait up to several days for 'approval' - and necessary changes are quite often denied by the AMU because they don't match there information (which is usually that which was incorrectly given in the first place . . .).
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zipmeister
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
My Office ,Winton is one of the units and the frames have not been removed(yet) ,we were notified on Weds last week that the "trials" would be taking place from today , HQ is fully up to date with developments and are in communication with the business . The bench merging element is goinging exactly the same as the trials did 3 odd years ago, The person who is normally first out the office took an hour longer today and thats with no D2D prep and no large parcels. There is no news on when the removal of individual duty part would go live. At the moment the trial is over 1 postcode .
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fb1969
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Re: Unagreed trial into a frameless office
Route Planner was bang up to date on the duty I used to do, but most days the mech was a disaster. At least three days a week we'd get half of the next walk's mail in the back of each tray - so Duty 1 got a load for Duty 2, Duty 2 was missing the start of theirs but got some of Duty 3's, Duty 3 was missing the start of theirs but got some of Duty 4's etc etc etc And once a fortnight the trays would either be wrongly labelled or wouldn't have a label at all.
But, everyone knows that Mail Centres are always right and every mistake is the fault of either the Delivery Office or the casuals.
But, everyone knows that Mail Centres are always right and every mistake is the fault of either the Delivery Office or the casuals.
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failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.