Maybe vote in a government that doesn’t approach the economy with austerity as their only idea. Tax the rich? Close tax avoidance loopholes? I have more.milly wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:33Could you possibly tell me how we can drive Workers wages up when mass immigration suppresses wage growth?LouBarlow wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:20Immigrants have propped up this country for decades. That is why the NHS is now on its knees after we have made this country so unwelcoming for overseas workers.milly wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 19:18It isn’t opinion, it is fact. Immigrants pay into the economy, via spending on goods and taxation. Immigrants who are being held in hotels are a drop in the ocean compared to how much this country is contributing to native unemployed and the elderly. If you gave those in hotels the opportunity to work here, they would.
Good luck getting a decent payrise if you want to swamp the Labour Market with immigrants.
Are you familiar with the mechanisms of supply and demand?
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Inflation and GDP is lower than before pandemic
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LouBarlow
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SpacePhoenix
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Taxing the rich won't work, they'd just leave the UK. Better to have some tax revenue from them rather than none
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milly
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The unfunded Public Sector Pension liabilities stood at £1.2 trillion in 2021.LouBarlow wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 05:48Maybe vote in a government that doesn’t approach the economy with austerity as their only idea. Tax the rich? Close tax avoidance loopholes? I have more.milly wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:33Could you possibly tell me how we can drive Workers wages up when mass immigration suppresses wage growth?LouBarlow wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 21:20Immigrants have propped up this country for decades. That is why the NHS is now on its knees after we have made this country so unwelcoming for overseas workers.milly wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 19:18It isn’t opinion, it is fact. Immigrants pay into the economy, via spending on goods and taxation. Immigrants who are being held in hotels are a drop in the ocean compared to how much this country is contributing to native unemployed and the elderly. If you gave those in hotels the opportunity to work here, they would.
Good luck getting a decent payrise if you want to swamp the Labour Market with immigrants.
Are you familiar with the mechanisms of supply and demand?
I doubt your tax plans are going to cover that expense.
If you believe that the Political Parties who got us into this mess can get us out of the mess they created then you are deluded.
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Tman
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Which "immigrants", those who've been here for 60+ years and have fully integrated into society, or the thousands who've stepped onto Kent beaches in the last couple of years, or hidden in lorries etc over the last decade or so?
There's a big distinction, and if you really believe that the latter put in more than they take out then why aren't all the countries of Europe clamouring to take their share of these beneficial workers?
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Acca Dacca
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Those bloody illegals coming over here and taking all our jobs working for peanuts whilst never working a day in their lives and claiming our benefits grrrrrr
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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milly
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How many illegals should we take in?Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:07Those bloody illegals coming over here and taking all our jobs working for peanuts whilst never working a day in their lives and claiming our benefits grrrrrr
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
Is it sustainable in the long term?
I know that people are desperate to appear virtuous but unlimited immigration puts a strain on our Countries finances and resources.
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milly
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Yes we have had a homeless problem for decades, and yet we had the solution all along, we could have just put them up in Hotels like we are doing with the illegals.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:09None, i fact we should be sending loads back. we've got enough homeless in this country without adding to that number. The NHS and many other services are overloaded already
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sindba
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We don't take in any "illegals". As soon as someone claims asylum they have a legal right to be here while their claim is processed.milly wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:59How many illegals should we take in?Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:07Those bloody illegals coming over here and taking all our jobs working for peanuts whilst never working a day in their lives and claiming our benefits grrrrrr
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
Is it sustainable in the long term?
I know that people are desperate to appear virtuous but unlimited immigration puts a strain on our Countries finances and resources.
And the vast majority of asylum claims are found to be genuine.
And we take far, far fewer refugees per capita than comparable countries. We are not taking our fair share.
Don't let your brain be boiled by con artist racists like Farage.
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milly
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Re: Inflation and GDP is lower than before pandemic
How many Million more can we take in?sindba wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:40We don't take in any "illegals". As soon as someone claims asylum they have a legal right to be here while their claim is processed.milly wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:59How many illegals should we take in?Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:07Those bloody illegals coming over here and taking all our jobs working for peanuts whilst never working a day in their lives and claiming our benefits grrrrrr
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
Is it sustainable in the long term?
I know that people are desperate to appear virtuous but unlimited immigration puts a strain on our Countries finances and resources.
And the vast majority of asylum claims are found to be genuine.
And we take far, far fewer refugees per capita than comparable countries. We are not taking our fair share.
Don't let your brain be boiled by con artist racists like Farage.
Genuine or not how do we fund them?
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77SAMPOST77
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Re: Inflation and GDP is lower than before pandemic
Send them all back ,milly wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:08How many Million more can we take in?sindba wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:40We don't take in any "illegals". As soon as someone claims asylum they have a legal right to be here while their claim is processed.milly wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:59How many illegals should we take in?Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:07Those bloody illegals coming over here and taking all our jobs working for peanuts whilst never working a day in their lives and claiming our benefits grrrrrr
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
Is it sustainable in the long term?
I know that people are desperate to appear virtuous but unlimited immigration puts a strain on our Countries finances and resources.
And the vast majority of asylum claims are found to be genuine.
And we take far, far fewer refugees per capita than comparable countries. We are not taking our fair share.
Don't let your brain be boiled by con artist racists like Farage.
Genuine or not how do we fund them?
There is no space and we cannot afford them , we are are trillions of pounds in debt .
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77SAMPOST77
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Re: Inflation and GDP is lower than before pandemic
Send them all back ,milly wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:08How many Million more can we take in?sindba wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 11:40We don't take in any "illegals". As soon as someone claims asylum they have a legal right to be here while their claim is processed.milly wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:59How many illegals should we take in?Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 10:07Those bloody illegals coming over here and taking all our jobs working for peanuts whilst never working a day in their lives and claiming our benefits grrrrrr
Taking all our council houses that they don’t need whilst living 11 to a room grrrrrr
Travelling over ocean in a dinghy over here because of how good they have it - those lucky sods working for peanuts, 11 to a room whilst actually not working a day in their lives on benefits grrrr
Wait a minute
Is it sustainable in the long term?
I know that people are desperate to appear virtuous but unlimited immigration puts a strain on our Countries finances and resources.
And the vast majority of asylum claims are found to be genuine.
And we take far, far fewer refugees per capita than comparable countries. We are not taking our fair share.
Don't let your brain be boiled by con artist racists like Farage.
Genuine or not how do we fund them?
There is no space and we cannot afford them , we are are trillions of pounds in debt .
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clashcityrocker
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You betray your agenda with your vocabulary.
Mass immigration. Illegals. Swamped.
You don't like immigrants. Fine. Just say so.
I will tell you something for free Silly Milly - we don't like you.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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LouBarlow
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Well said.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 15:53You betray your agenda with your vocabulary.
Mass immigration. Illegals. Swamped.
You don't like immigrants. Fine. Just say so.
I will tell you something for free Silly Milly - we don't like you.
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richietns
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Milly is correct though you cant house and treat people when there's not enough money for the population as it is...how else are you going to say illegals,swamped etc it is what it is.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 15:53You betray your agenda with your vocabulary.
Mass immigration. Illegals. Swamped.
You don't like immigrants. Fine. Just say so.
I will tell you something for free Silly Milly - we don't like you.