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Strike notification: CWU-We have today served legal notice on Royal Mail Group for national strike action on Thursday 24th November and Friday 25th Nov

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Duesouth
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Re: Strike notification

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clashcityrocker wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 17:07
Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
So strikes will still be on regardless.
The strikes will still be on unless they are called off.
Lets say hypothetically the deal is good enough for the members, then yes the union might call off the strikes (but I dont think they would).

The worst case scenario is we dont agree to the new deal, and the union have called off strike action before the ballot ends. Then what?
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Re: Strike notification

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Why is everyone so defeatist!!!!!
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Re: Strike notification

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Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 17:30


The worst-case scenario is we dont agree to the new deal, and the union have called off strike action before the ballot ends. Then what?
IF the union call off the strikes, they will clearly believe that they have the basis of a deal that they can sell to the members.
They will then go into overdrive to convince everyone that this is the deal of the century and Branches will advise their members to accept it (or face the consequences)
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: Strike notification

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I’m a veteran of numerous past disputes where the union have been suckered into calling off planned strikes ‘because talks are going well’… and then the talks have gone like Aristotle.
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Then, suddenly, it’s too late to give notice for a pre-Christmas strike ans everyone on here moans like f**k. Thompson had the axe over his head with the financial results. Now is the best time to keep the strike dates in place.
You think he’s going to tell shareholders‘I didn’t pursue a deal because they weren’t playing nicely-nicey’ ?
He’s toast soon, anyway
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Re: Strike notification

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Do not wish to put a downer but im my opinion Black Friday/Cyber Monday strikes are irrelevant.

The likes of Amazon and ARGOS have already started their sales to beat any disruption. Two weeks is a long time and people will be stocking up for Christmas
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Re: Strike notification

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redlen wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 18:57
Do not wish to put a downer but im my opinion Black Friday/Cyber Monday strikes are irrelevant.

The likes of Amazon and ARGOS have already started their sales to beat any disruption. Two weeks is a long time and people will be stocking up for Christmas
Will be a backlog if most people stop working OT
Also is the OT ban still on in some areas?
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Re: Strike notification

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Would the union have to re-ballot before Xmas? Can't remember when the current ballots expire
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Re: Strike notification

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redlen wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 18:57
Do not wish to put a downer but im my opinion Black Friday/Cyber Monday strikes are irrelevant.

The likes of Amazon and ARGOS have already started their sales to beat any disruption. Two weeks is a long time and people will be stocking up for Christmas
Black Friday will still be the day when most orders are made unless Amazon etc really ramp up the deals in the week before the strike.
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Re: Strike notification

Post by walthmstowman »

Acca Dacca wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:32
Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
Dave & Co mentioned in the last member meeting that even if an agreement has been made, they still need to ballot members on whether we agree or not. So strikes will still be on regardless.

A lot more red tape but the right decision.
If the black friday strikes were on regardless then whats the incentive for RM to make an agreement? The whole point of them is to force RM's hand to an extent - so if the plan is for them to still go ahead even if we were being balloted on a provisional agreement then that incentive for RM to come to an agreement isnt there.
The incentive is Christmas is coming
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Re: Strike notification

Post by aiden01 »

Duesouth wrote:
10 Nov 2022, 16:23
Dave & Co mentioned in the last member meeting that even if an agreement has been made, they still need to ballot members on whether we agree or not. So strikes will still be on regardless.

A lot more red tape but the right decision.
Strikes won't be on regardless if there is an agreement reached. ( not very hopeful though).
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Re: Strike notification: CWU-We have today served legal notice on Royal Mail Group for national strike action on Thursday 24th November and Friday 25th Nov

Post by Schiff »

Tomorrow we need to be giving notice for the strikes on 30th November and 1st December.

Unless RM have caved completely then we also need to be announcing a lot of strike dates for December.