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chickenwittle
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Re: Union updates

Post by chickenwittle »

thedonkey wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 16:05
Everytime I read a union update regarding the current dispute I get a feeling we are being primed for yet another shafting.
The union will get us the best deal they possibly can but that will obviously involve some concessions on our side , if you think the union can fight off every Royal Mail attack you are living in cuckoo land.Everyone one of us will have our own red lines , mine is working Sundays, I will leave the job if that’s inforced.
heraldmoth
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Re: Union updates

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Sundays is a no brainer I’m afraid
Walter sobchak
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Re: Union updates

Post by Walter sobchak »

heraldmoth wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 19:27
Sundays is a no brainer I’m afraid
I agree and we need to be heavily compensated for this.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Union updates

Post by SpacePhoenix »

My guess is that Saturdays and Sundays in all offices (DOs, MCs, RDCs) will eventually end up being done on a rota so that everyone will have to do them at some point. A lot will depend on what demand there is for Sunday delivery
Jen1
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Re: Union updates

Post by Jen1 »

The working hours were the main reason a lot of us joined Royal Mail

Now they’re turning it into a 9 til 5 job, even the agency staff they’ve got working have been saying no to working later due to childcare issues

The customers don’t want their parcels and mail later, I know I get complaints when I work overtime and people tell me they’ve waited in all day

If we’re working later are they going to shorten our rounds to take into account the school traffic? Does anyone know?

Also what about all the small businesses that shut at 4pm are they going to rearrange the routes so we can get there before they shut?

I’m prepared to work Sunday but only if I get the Saturday off and I’d want plenty of notice

It’s all about the conditions for me, I’d settle for a 0% pay rise if conditions stay the same
Deadly
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Re: Union updates

Post by Deadly »

Hopefully there'll be no shortage of volunteers for Sunday working. I'm like a broken record here but I won't be working them no matter how they dress it up.
heraldmoth
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Re: Union updates

Post by heraldmoth »

Going to be hard to convince volunteers to work an 8 hour shift on a Sunday for a flat rate, I’m afraid it’s gonna be all in, minimum of 1 a month
POSTPERSON50
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Re: Union updates

Post by POSTPERSON50 »

Jen1 wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 20:04
The working hours were the main reason a lot of us joined Royal Mail

Now they’re turning it into a 9 til 5 job, even the agency staff they’ve got working have been saying no to working later due to childcare issues

The customers don’t want their parcels and mail later, I know I get complaints when I work overtime and people tell me they’ve waited in all day

If we’re working later are they going to shorten our rounds to take into account the school traffic? Does anyone know?

Also what about all the small businesses that shut at 4pm are they going to rearrange the routes so we can get there before they shut?

I’m prepared to work Sunday but only if I get the Saturday off and I’d want plenty of notice

It’s all about the conditions for me, I’d settle for a 0% pay rise if conditions stay the same
In the mid 90's I started on 6 days (everyone worked 6 days), 40 hours. 5:00 til 11:40.

2nd delivery took me half an hour at most. Was always done by 11:00.

Very little in the way of magazines or small parcels. You were given a week to deliver what became 'mailsort' items.

We are edging towards an 11 am start now.

The joy of the job was the early mornings, done by dinnertime, day to myself.

It was never a chore to me, it is now.
LaggyBand
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Re: Union updates

Post by LaggyBand »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 17:09
That’s not the unions fault, their job is to reduce the level of shafting.
RM want stuff; they ask for double stuff; union knock ‘em down to half stuff; which was really the full stuff.

Both sides win
TopperGas
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Re: Union updates

Post by TopperGas »

LaggyBand wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 21:08
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 17:09
That’s not the unions fault, their job is to reduce the level of shafting.
RM want stuff; they ask for double stuff; union knock ‘em down to half stuff; which was really the full stuff.

Both sides win
That'll be a successful outcome of this dispute as so far RM don't seem to have moved an inch from wanting double stuff!
aiden01
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Re: Union updates

Post by aiden01 »

Jen1 wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 20:04
The working hours were the main reason a lot of us joined Royal Mail

Now they’re turning it into a 9 til 5 job, even the agency staff they’ve got working have been saying no to working later due to childcare issues

The customers don’t want their parcels and mail later, I know I get complaints when I work overtime and people tell me they’ve waited in all day

If we’re working later are they going to shorten our rounds to take into account the school traffic? Does anyone know?

Also what about all the small businesses that shut at 4pm are they going to rearrange the routes so we can get there before they shut?

I’m prepared to work Sunday but only if I get the Saturday off and I’d want plenty of notice

It’s all about the conditions for me, I’d settle for a 0% pay rise if conditions stay the same
Ffs how do you live now never mind a o% rise
neviboss
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Re: Union updates

Post by neviboss »

Easy, all of your income goes on rent/mortgage, water, gas, electric, council tax, school uniform. Leaving you enough to buy 20 tins of beans and 5 loaves of bread.

You've already sold the car, so you have to walk to work!

Simples. 🤔
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Union updates

Post by SpacePhoenix »

aiden01 wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 22:19
Jen1 wrote:
06 Nov 2022, 20:04
The working hours were the main reason a lot of us joined Royal Mail

Now they’re turning it into a 9 til 5 job, even the agency staff they’ve got working have been saying no to working later due to childcare issues

The customers don’t want their parcels and mail later, I know I get complaints when I work overtime and people tell me they’ve waited in all day

If we’re working later are they going to shorten our rounds to take into account the school traffic? Does anyone know?

Also what about all the small businesses that shut at 4pm are they going to rearrange the routes so we can get there before they shut?

I’m prepared to work Sunday but only if I get the Saturday off and I’d want plenty of notice

It’s all about the conditions for me, I’d settle for a 0% pay rise if conditions stay the same
Ffs how do you live now never mind a o% rise
or if RM axed some of the allowances, which for some would effectively be a pay cut, not a pay rise
1617mel
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Re: Union updates

Post by 1617mel »

All will be told, at the end of the 10 days talks, let's hold on .
qwerty2
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Re: Union updates

Post by qwerty2 »

Then VESA takeover……………………….?????