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explain 30 minute flex rules
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postieblueshirt
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explain 30 minute flex rules
explain 30 minute flex rules so were clear and can defend ourselves when the time comes.thanks
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Clappedoutpostie
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
For ease of reference the words contained in the Integrated Delivery Programme of the Agenda for Growth states the following.
Point of Clarification on 30 mins Flexibility
Both parties re-affirm their commitment to the 30 minute flexibility arrangements within the Pay and Modernisation agreement. The following provides clarification of the agreed approach.
Where necessary, for example when traffic volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Individual circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual hours will not change. This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days. However this period can be extended by local agreement. A local record will be kept. Any requirement to change times of attendance or flex will take into account individual’s personal obligations and responsibilities.
There is no other agreement in place between Royal Mail and the CWU that overrides or supersedes this statement. To be absolutely clear any hours worked before or after official duty times should attract the appropriate overtime payment, unless there is an arrangement agreed in line with the above.
Where managers continue to insist that working beyond duty time is part of some imaginary flexibility agreement then a disagreement should be put in place to resolve the matter using the IR Framework.
Point of Clarification on 30 mins Flexibility
Both parties re-affirm their commitment to the 30 minute flexibility arrangements within the Pay and Modernisation agreement. The following provides clarification of the agreed approach.
Where necessary, for example when traffic volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Individual circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual hours will not change. This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days. However this period can be extended by local agreement. A local record will be kept. Any requirement to change times of attendance or flex will take into account individual’s personal obligations and responsibilities.
There is no other agreement in place between Royal Mail and the CWU that overrides or supersedes this statement. To be absolutely clear any hours worked before or after official duty times should attract the appropriate overtime payment, unless there is an arrangement agreed in line with the above.
Where managers continue to insist that working beyond duty time is part of some imaginary flexibility agreement then a disagreement should be put in place to resolve the matter using the IR Framework.
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postieblueshirt
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
many thanks i like to know these things as this will no doubt happen shortly
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justanumber
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
Always makes me laugh that...Swings and roundabouts 



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walthmstowman
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
I thought all our agreements were torn up ?Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 20:06For ease of reference the words contained in the Integrated Delivery Programme of the Agenda for Growth states the following.
Point of Clarification on 30 mins Flexibility
Both parties re-affirm their commitment to the 30 minute flexibility arrangements within the Pay and Modernisation agreement. The following provides clarification of the agreed approach.
Where necessary, for example when traffic volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Individual circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual hours will not change. This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days. However this period can be extended by local agreement. A local record will be kept. Any requirement to change times of attendance or flex will take into account individual’s personal obligations and responsibilities.
There is no other agreement in place between Royal Mail and the CWU that overrides or supersedes this statement. To be absolutely clear any hours worked before or after official duty times should attract the appropriate overtime payment, unless there is an arrangement agreed in line with the above.
Where managers continue to insist that working beyond duty time is part of some imaginary flexibility agreement then a disagreement should be put in place to resolve the matter using the IR Framework.
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Clappedoutpostie
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
You make a good point. I don’t know which agreements stand/don’t stand anymore, things are moving too fast to keep up.
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hans solo
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
Thiswalthmstowman wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 20:40I thought all our agreements were torn up ?Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 20:06For ease of reference the words contained in the Integrated Delivery Programme of the Agenda for Growth states the following.
Point of Clarification on 30 mins Flexibility
Both parties re-affirm their commitment to the 30 minute flexibility arrangements within the Pay and Modernisation agreement. The following provides clarification of the agreed approach.
Where necessary, for example when traffic volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Individual circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual hours will not change. This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days. However this period can be extended by local agreement. A local record will be kept. Any requirement to change times of attendance or flex will take into account individual’s personal obligations and responsibilities.
There is no other agreement in place between Royal Mail and the CWU that overrides or supersedes this statement. To be absolutely clear any hours worked before or after official duty times should attract the appropriate overtime payment, unless there is an arrangement agreed in line with the above.
Where managers continue to insist that working beyond duty time is part of some imaginary flexibility agreement then a disagreement should be put in place to resolve the matter using the IR Framework.
It doesn’t exist
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hans solo
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
And neither does lapsing
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parforthewalk
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
Generally, its 30mins a week, but ST wants 30mins every day as stated in his latest offer.
Explain to your manager that could do it, but you want the time back on Saturday (earlier finish) so its either 30mins or 2hrs early finish
Anyway it sounds pretty pointless given the amount of mail/letters thats failing everyday nationally on a daily basis

Explain to your manager that could do it, but you want the time back on Saturday (earlier finish) so its either 30mins or 2hrs early finish
Anyway it sounds pretty pointless given the amount of mail/letters thats failing everyday nationally on a daily basis
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Captain Scarlet
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
If all our agreements have been torn up then surely this cannot be applied?
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chickenwittle
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
It was always voluntary on our part anyway, if we didn’t want to do it that was that , has never been done in my office.
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k979aaa
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Re: explain 30 minute flex rules
Never done it Never will it is a request ask the manager if they are getting a 5.5% pay rise and ÂŁ1000 bonus? and will they be working Sundays! I would think they would quickly lose interest in their request!