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RMCtv : RM-CWU seem more interested in inflicting further damage on the business at our busiest time of the year rather than seeking a resolution for the benefit of our employees and our customers

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Re: RMCtv : RM-CWU seem more interested in inflicting further damage on the business at our busiest time of the year rather than seeking a resolution for the benefit of our employees and our customers

Post by aiden01 »

Weetrogg2 wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:01
TopperGas wrote:
28 Oct 2022, 22:47
This whole saga is becoming a farce, why is there such secrecy about the ACAS talks and why are the CWU announcing further strike dates when there's already strike dates set for the same week? Who does the CWU think paya our mortgages etc when we're on strike?
If we lose this battle you will not be able to afford your mortgage for the future, and your working conditions will be unbearable. Financially it’s very difficult but as the saying goes’ fight and you may lose, don’t fight and you will definitely lose’ and I say this as someone who’s got 3 kids and a mortgage and my wife is a postie too😳😳

Difficult though it is we need to stay strong and determined or except a massive reduction in our terms and conditions, which I for one am not willing to except ✊✊✊
Can argue all day an all night long over this issue but at end of day people will not be able to struggle through much more esp pts. have a few husbands an wifes in our mc with kids an there staying strong aswell. I agree we lose this we ar doomed to whatever st wants. But i will say again sorry for repeating i think people will start drifting back in. Personally in it for the long haul.
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Post by k979aaa »

Weetrogg2 wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:01
TopperGas wrote:
28 Oct 2022, 22:47
This whole saga is becoming a farce, why is there such secrecy about the ACAS talks and why are the CWU announcing further strike dates when there's already strike dates set for the same week? Who does the CWU think paya our mortgages etc when we're on strike?
If we lose this battle you will not be able to afford your mortgage for the future, and your working conditions will be unbearable. Financially it’s very difficult but as the saying goes’ fight and you may lose, don’t fight and you will definitely lose’ and I say this as someone who’s got 3 kids and a mortgage and my wife is a postie too😳😳

Difficult though it is we need to stay strong and determined or except a massive reduction in our terms and conditions, which I for one am not willing to except ✊✊✊
Royal Mail have been doing this since before the 2001 way forward agreement we every so often have these disputes we have mitigated theses actions now is not the time for capitulation. I welcome your post on here we all can agree that most sensible CEO's and CFO's and Chairman of any business would agree nominal change at this time. But this is not a sensible business this whole organisation has a whiff corruption at the top and who gains the most well I just gave their titles google them. The fact remains it is us or them well simple question we fight till there is nothing left if it comes to that!
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Post by Weetrogg2 »

If people are not willing to fight then they can have no complaints ( to the CWU because there won’t be one) when they are working Sunday as a normal day or finishing delivery at 19:00. Ask the Nottingham and Mansfield miners where strike breaking got them??

Some bus, dockers and council workers are taking 8,9,10 day I/A continuously, some are winning and some are ongoing, what I find disappointing is that some Postal workers are ‘scared’ of taking more than a day here and there.

I’ll strike as until we get an acceptable agreement, if we lose and go back to work without one, I’ll be able to hold my head high and have myself self respect knowing I didn’t strike break.✊✊✊
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Post by k979aaa »

We need better communications to all members the strikes announced today for 12'th and 14'th of November were not communicated in an easy way to understand. But also a video of Dave and Andy was not audible sound check anyone? this should not happen honest, Still the CWU are miles better at communicating than one Simon Thompson and Royal Mail a whole business whose business is communications cannot communicate!
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Post by kazardaimenu »

£200m demonstrates the need to change. Yeah change the dividend yield and share buybacks.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

k979aaa wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 01:10
We need better communications to all members the strikes announced today for 12'th and 14'th of November were not communicated in an easy way to understand. But also a video of Dave and Andy was not audible sound check anyone? this should not happen honest, Still the CWU are miles better at communicating than one Simon Thompson and Royal Mail a whole business whose business is communications cannot communicate!
Nothing about the extra dates on our union board, don't know what time of the day any communications about the extra dates would have gone out to all reps
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Post by scoobydo79 »

You dished it out with Your redundancies nonsense while We were meant to be in talks and now your getting it back. Make a good deal now and it won’t happen. Up to You.
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Post by 49erman »

Weetrogg2 wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:01
TopperGas wrote:
28 Oct 2022, 22:47
This whole saga is becoming a farce, why is there such secrecy about the ACAS talks and why are the CWU announcing further strike dates when there's already strike dates set for the same week? Who does the CWU think paya our mortgages etc when we're on strike?
If we lose this battle you will not be able to afford your mortgage for the future, and your working conditions will be unbearable. Financially it’s very difficult but as the saying goes’ fight and you may lose, don’t fight and you will definitely lose’ and I say this as someone who’s got 3 kids and a mortgage and my wife is a postie too😳😳

Difficult though it is we need to stay strong and determined or except a massive reduction in our terms and conditions, which I for one am not willing to except ✊✊✊
✊ :Applause :Applause
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Post by thefox »

Shadedpostie wrote:
28 Oct 2022, 22:22
What? You mean like how you announced 10,000 redundancies to the news outlets before even mentioning anything to us?
:Applause
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Post by antcpfc »

Weetrogg2 wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:57
If people are not willing to fight then they can have no complaints ( to the CWU because there won’t be one) when they are working Sunday as a normal day or finishing delivery at 19:00. Ask the Nottingham and Mansfield miners where strike breaking got them??

Some bus, dockers and council workers are taking 8,9,10 day I/A continuously, some are winning and some are ongoing, what I find disappointing is that some Postal workers are ‘scared’ of taking more than a day here and there.

I’ll strike as until we get an acceptable agreement, if we lose and go back to work without one, I’ll be able to hold my head high and have myself self respect knowing I didn’t strike break.✊✊✊
👍
It is hard for those with young kids and big mortgages or rents I know as some one that’s been here 38 years and never worked a strike day. Hopefully leaving the shitshow in the next 6-12 months but will continue fighting for those left.
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Post by borders »

k979aaa wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 01:10
We need better communications to all members the strikes announced today for 12'th and 14'th of November were not communicated in an easy way to understand. But also a video of Dave and Andy was not audible sound check anyone? this should not happen honest, Still the CWU are miles better at communicating than one Simon Thompson and Royal Mail a whole business whose business is communications cannot communicate!
The programme of strike action across Royal Mail Group. Please share as widely as possible.

October – National Action – all Members Across all Functions

• 24 hours from 04:00 Thursday 13th October into Friday 14th October (Pay)

• 24 hours from 04:00 Thursday 20th October into Friday 21st October (Change)

• 24 hours from 04:00 from Tuesday 25th October into Wednesday 26th October (Change)

November - Functional Action (with the Exception of a Single Day’s National Action)

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 2nd November into Thursday 3rd November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 3rd November into Friday 4th November = All Processing, Area Distribution, International, Collections, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Friday 4th November into Saturday 5th November = All Deliveries

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Tuesday 8th November into Wednesday 9th November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 9th November into Thursday 10th November = Processing, Area Distribution, International, Collections, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 10th November into Friday 11th November = All Deliveries

• 24 hours from 04:00 Monday 14th November into Thursday 15th November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 Tuesday 15th November into Wednesday 16th November = Processing, Area Distribution, International, Collections, Admin and MDEC.

• 24 hours from 04:00 Wednesday 16th November into Thursday 17th November = All Deliveries

Black Friday week

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 23rd November into Thursday 24th November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 24th November into Friday 25th November = All Processing, Area Distribution, Collections, International, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Friday 25th November into Saturday 26th November = All Deliveries

• 24 hours all out on Cyber Monday 28th November into Tuesday 29th November = Everyone

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 30th November into Thursday 1st December = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 1st December into Friday 2nd December = All Processing, Area Distribution, Collections, International, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Friday 2nd December into Saturday 3rd December = All Deliveries

Parcelforce, Fleet and Engineers to be aligned to the most appropriate functional dates following consultation between the Officers and the various Senior Reps. This element will be reported back to the Postal Executive in due course.
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
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Post by 2chorizon »

borders wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 11:18
k979aaa wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 01:10
We need better communications to all members the strikes announced today for 12'th and 14'th of November were not communicated in an easy way to understand. But also a video of Dave and Andy was not audible sound check anyone? this should not happen honest, Still the CWU are miles better at communicating than one Simon Thompson and Royal Mail a whole business whose business is communications cannot communicate!
The programme of strike action across Royal Mail Group. Please share as widely as possible.

October – National Action – all Members Across all Functions

• 24 hours from 04:00 Thursday 13th October into Friday 14th October (Pay)

• 24 hours from 04:00 Thursday 20th October into Friday 21st October (Change)

• 24 hours from 04:00 from Tuesday 25th October into Wednesday 26th October (Change)

November - Functional Action (with the Exception of a Single Day’s National Action)

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 2nd November into Thursday 3rd November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 3rd November into Friday 4th November = All Processing, Area Distribution, International, Collections, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Friday 4th November into Saturday 5th November = All Deliveries

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Tuesday 8th November into Wednesday 9th November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 9th November into Thursday 10th November = Processing, Area Distribution, International, Collections, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 10th November into Friday 11th November = All Deliveries

• 24 hours from 04:00 Monday 14th November into Thursday 15th November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 Tuesday 15th November into Wednesday 16th November = Processing, Area Distribution, International, Collections, Admin and MDEC.

• 24 hours from 04:00 Wednesday 16th November into Thursday 17th November = All Deliveries

Black Friday week

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 23rd November into Thursday 24th November = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 24th November into Friday 25th November = All Processing, Area Distribution, Collections, International, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Friday 25th November into Saturday 26th November = All Deliveries

• 24 hours all out on Cyber Monday 28th November into Tuesday 29th November = Everyone

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Wednesday 30th November into Thursday 1st December = All Network

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Thursday 1st December into Friday 2nd December = All Processing, Area Distribution, Collections, International, Admin and MDEC

• 24 hours from 04:00 on Friday 2nd December into Saturday 3rd December = All Deliveries

Parcelforce, Fleet and Engineers to be aligned to the most appropriate functional dates following consultation between the Officers and the various Senior Reps. This element will be reported back to the Postal Executive in due course.
That is now outdated,
Sat 12th nov is now added as a all out strike day
And Mon 14th nov is now an all out strike day (not just network)
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Post by borders »

Put the new dates up then :wink:
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
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Post by chrisj »

It is indeed farcical! Do they really think more strikes will get us a little bit more or convince Royal to capitulate!

Why announce new strike dates in the midst of assisted negotiation with ACAS?

Simon has actually been more quiet and not provocative since the ACAS talks started.

Strike, strike and more strike from the CWU as if we will ever recover from the loss!

The changes will still come... The Union is digging its own grave!
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Post by 2chorizon »

chrisj wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 12:26
It is indeed farcical! Do they really think more strikes will get us a little bit more or convince Royal to capitulate!

Why announce new strike dates in the midst of assisted negotiation with ACAS?
Because the 2 new strike dates the 12th & 14th november is exactly around the time the biggest existential threat to our industrial action will commence work at all sites in their hundreds........
Royal Mail seasonal associates aka "christmas casuals"

That's why.