November 14th - DOOMSDAY!!

[Hador]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

It would be all Simon Thompson's fault . We didn't pick this fight he did . If Thompson genuinely cared about growth, change and modernisation he wouldn't have torn up national agreements which are vital for change and modernisation . It's all gone way passed that because it's become clear he's only interested in breaking up the company and destroying the union . Therefore in my opinion Thompson has to go whether voluntary or be sacked . He's managed to get the entire workforce against him . Any enforced changes without the staff onside will end in disaster .

But we do need to separate the emotion from the facts....it's clear no agreements have been "torn up", they have been served notice on based on the get out clauses that were part of the agreement. The bigger issue here is that the clauses were part of the agreement to start with. The irony is RM have actually followed the agreement to the letter (in terms of getting out of it). If that were not the case the CWU legal team would have had them in court. They've been outmanoeuvred.

Exactly looks like everyone forgot about that was CWU fault, they signed agreement. Now because industrial action Royal Mail have been served notice and we lose our right. Please correct my if I am wrong.

[Surreypostie]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

It would be all Simon Thompson's fault . We didn't pick this fight he did . If Thompson genuinely cared about growth, change and modernisation he wouldn't have torn up national agreements which are vital for change and modernisation . It's all gone way passed that because it's become clear he's only interested in breaking up the company and destroying the union . Therefore in my opinion Thompson has to go whether voluntary or be sacked . He's managed to get the entire workforce against him . Any enforced changes without the staff onside will end in disaster .

But we do need to separate the emotion from the facts....it's clear no agreements have been "torn up", they have been served notice on based on the get out clauses that were part of the agreement. The bigger issue here is that the clauses were part of the agreement to start with. The irony is RM have actually followed the agreement to the letter (in terms of getting out of it). If that were not the case the CWU legal team would have had them in court. They've been outmanoeuvred.

At the time, this was called out on here as a no strike clause because it gave RM a way out and we were told by the union it was no such thing. Well here we are taking IA and RM have used that clause to get out of the agreement. How can we possibly be pissed off at them for doing it? Embarrassing if you ask me that it was ever in there. Most of our agreements are not worth the paper they are written on if they can just tear them up, if that is wrong then why are the CWU not taking legal action?

[hans solo]

We might do yet

[hans solo]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

[walthmstowman]

Tony Blair was always too quick to kiss EU ass.

[jagger]

If an agreement isn't reached by November 14th, I estimate this to be the point of no return. Royal Mail will not be able to win back the majority of its customers as retailers will be looking to other courier companies. RM will have missed out almost entirely on the biggest consumer spending period of the financial year.
Our new Czech overlord will lose a fortune in dividends and inherit a company riddled with debt. Simon Thompson kamikaze business plan is designed simply no more then to make a name for himself in the business world as the guy who broke the union. Right now the executive board and major shareholders need to be coming together to give Simon his P45 and a swift boot out the door. The guy is paid a £million a year and all he does is rant at trolls on social media!!

It would be all Simon Thompson's fault . We didn't pick this fight he did . If Thompson genuinely cared about growth, change and modernisation he wouldn't have torn up national agreements which are vital for change and modernisation . It's all gone way passed that because it's become clear he's only interested in breaking up the company and destroying the union . Therefore in my opinion Thompson has to go whether voluntary or be sacked . He's managed to get the entire workforce against him . Any enforced changes without the staff onside will end in disaster .

But we do need to separate the emotion from the facts....it's clear no agreements have been "torn up", they have been served notice on based on the get out clauses that were part of the agreement. The bigger issue here is that the clauses were part of the agreement to start with. The irony is RM have actually followed the agreement to the letter (in terms of getting out of it). If that were not the case the CWU legal team would have had them in court. They've been outmanoeuvred.

At the time, this was called out on here as a no strike clause because it gave RM a way out and we were told by the union it was no such thing. Well here we are taking IA and RM have used that clause to get out of the agreement. How can we possibly be pissed off at them for doing it? Embarrassing if you ask me that it was ever in there. Most of our agreements are not worth the paper they are written on if they can just tear them up, if that is wrong then why are the CWU not taking legal action?

Maybe a question that Martin/Dingo could answer

[freespeech]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

[aiden01]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Ffs give up majority on here said at time it was a no strike deal maybe you were on a solo run an missed it.

[walthmstowman]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

I've only just started posting but I can assure you I'm just a Postman with over 30 years service .

[Wolf91]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

Sure, a lot have, but I’ve seen a load of new names the last few weeks.
You never normally see many new names around here. A lot of the new names seem to be running with the same narrative too - I’m not suggesting anything, but make of that what you will.

[Acca Dacca]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

I've only just started posting but I can assure you I'm just a Postman with over 30 years service .

Any other texts you have misheard lately?

viewtopic.php?f=87&t=106771&p=1000933#p1000933

[SpacePhoenix]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

Probably a good few of us joined this forum back when another similar form called PostmanChat closed down. Offhand I don't know if RMC was started around that time or it was running long before PostmanChat closed down

[sindba]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Yeah.

Posts 32
Joined Sep22

"I'm all for the strikes, but I'm losing money and thinking of crossing the picket. The CWU are too aggressive, we need to modernise after all"

That type of s**t.

[k979aaa]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

Probably a good few of us joined this forum back when another similar form called PostmanChat closed down. Offhand I don't know if RMC was started around that time or it was running long before PostmanChat closed down

The owner of this site was restricted and hence he set up his own forum which is neither management or the Union sides. I do respect him for that and all the points we make on here are due to him doing his bit for democracy!

[walthmstowman]

And cry me sceptical but I see a lot of new names on forum
Simon paying people to make comments?????

Just look at the profile details on the right.....a lot, including me, have been here for over a decade.

I've only just started posting but I can assure you I'm just a Postman with over 30 years service .

Any other texts you have misheard lately?

viewtopic.php?f=87&t=106771&p=1000933#p1000933

Well at least I can rely on you to put me right