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Called a SCAB today

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sindba
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by sindba »

Withdraw your labour on strike days.

Do your shift and whatever extra you want on work days.

It's pretty straightforward, people!
datasaint
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by datasaint »

A strike is a withdrawal of labour on that one day. What happens on the other working days is irrespective.

The issue is not about causing disruption to the business after the strike, it's the fact the mail hasn't been picked up from customers on the day of the strike. This is what applies pressure to get a resolution.

I think it's good members are doing overtime, the money is better off in their pockets, because else that work would just as easily be covered by agency staff.
arsenalbob
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by arsenalbob »

Simon Thompson said the company is losing £1 million every strike day. People working their rest days does not alter that fact. The damage is already done.
Surreypostie
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by Surreypostie »

hans solo wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 20:29
Jen1 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:50
We had a similar conversation in our office

I’m on a part time contract (30hours) so I’ve always done overtime to make up my wage to an amount I can live off

I’ve averaged 20hours overtime a week for the past 3 years

20 hours pay a week, every week until???? Well that is just too much to lose

If those full timers feel that strongly about not doing overtime maybe they could stick their hands in their pockets and make it a level playing field on how much we’re all sacrificing
But all them full timers were once part time as well
Some people forget that
And please note anyone who signed a contract to work part time is just that part time
I was 8 years pt before I received a ft contract
What are all the part time staff going to do if RM get their way and overtime gets swallowed up in annualised hours
I've never been PT, never had PT when I started and we shouldn't now, two tier workforce and all that.
k979aaa
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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arsenalbob wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:03
Simon Thompson said the company is losing £1 million every strike day. People working their rest days does not alter that fact. The damage is already done.
Yes and he caused it all he is very good at losing money google it!
Bigman20
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by Bigman20 »

Well your certainly not on your own in what your doing .An that includes the socalled union men.
2chorizon
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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barrychuckle wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 20:38
In one day the original poster has done, based on full time hours (roughly) 13.5 hours-in one day. over half as much as a part timer on a 25 hour a week contract.
If he is working sat then he will be contravening the 11hr rest period between shifts.
2chorizon
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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norm wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 21:45
A strike is a withdrawal of labour on that one day. What happens on the other working days is irrespective.

The issue is not about causing disruption to the business after the strike, it's the fact the mail hasn't been picked up from customers on the day of the strike. This is what applies pressure to get a resolution.

I think it's good members are doing overtime, the money is better off in their pockets, because else that work would just as easily be covered by agency staff.
Yes, i was formerly of the opinion that RM staff shouldnt really do OT on the so called "recovery days" but now i think it is better that RM staff take it rather than bring agency in.
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2chorizon
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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arsenalbob wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:03
Simon Thompson said the company is losing £1 million every strike day. People working their rest days does not alter that fact. The damage is already done.
ST is also saving £1m a day by not paying the wages of 115,000 RM staff on each strike day.
nikrad
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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If people can afford to withdraw labour and not do any overtime then fair-play. But for many of us in what is a low paid job this is simply not an option. It’s more important that strike days are observed after that let members make up their own minds. To me the biggest problem is strike breakers and agencies not people doing o/t.
2chorizon
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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nikrad wrote:
22 Oct 2022, 04:06
If people can afford to withdraw labour and not do any overtime then fair-play. But for many of us in what is a low paid job this is simply not an option. It’s more important that strike days are observed after that let members make up their own minds. To me the biggest problem is strike breakers and agencies not people doing o/t.
Yes, and now it is time for us to be more pragmatic 🙏
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thebigone
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Re: Called a SCAB today

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It’s scabbing no matter how you polish it up(with draw labour
priority102
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by priority102 »

The person concerned was asked to withdraw their labour to support a strike - this is what they have done, and what happens before or after that is no business whatsoever of anyone other than the person concerned and their manager.

Whoever the low life was who called them such a name deserves to be conduct coded, and if they had done this to me, I would be going down that route, calling someone a scab when they HAVE participated in a strike is TOTALLY unacceptable. It is people like that low life who will enable RM to win this dispute, they let EVERY ONE of their colleagues down.

As I said yesterday - always worrying and bitching about what someone else is doing, it's a toxic pandemic in RM, if only you could get a vaccine for it.
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aiden01
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by aiden01 »

thebigone wrote:
22 Oct 2022, 09:12
It’s scabbing no matter how you polish it up(with draw labour
Explain how?
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Re: Called a SCAB today

Post by scoobydo79 »

We’re You expecting sympathy on here? :cuppa