Phase 4

[Fluke]

Lovejoy, as far as I know everyone in my office received a ballot paper and those that revealed their intention said they voted no. I can confirm that those that I spoke to about the agreement did not have sight of the full agreement and were less than happy about the fact. And just to compound matters I was speaking to our Rep last week and it became clear during our conversation that he was not aware of the details contained in the full agreement. I asked him if he had seen / read the full agreement and he said no. Just as footnote, and I would guess as a result of what I have just related, our office is still starting at 06:15 hours on a Saturday. If the first and perhaps most basic part of the agreement cannot be implemented in my office I don't hold out much hope for anything thing else to be agreed at a local level. Hope the above won't sound like a rant because that is not the intention, it's just the way it is.

Your not alone, I don't remember seeing a full copy of the agreement in with the voting slip. I printed off 5 copies of the agreement when it was put on this website and passed them round at work.

[dvbuk55]

Your not alone, I don't remember seeing a full copy of the agreement in with the voting slip. I printed off 5 copies of the agreement when it was put on this website and passed them round at work.

Maybe they meant to but ran out of copies after those who matter had them.

[nelson]

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Well nelson you lot are quick to phase 2 we are still debateing it but you are quite right there is a phase 4 it don't look good you will need a blackberry to keep tab's of your hour's and that's no joke! Shocked

Our office is would agree to anything, they are totally disinterested, until the s**t hits the fan, then they moan!!!!!! Could we get a Blackberry on the FLF money??

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Sorry mate every CWU member got a full copy of the agreement. I suggest if your think yor office didn't then you should contact your branch secretary. The agreement was with the ballot paper!! So if you didn't get the agreement then you didn't get the ballot paper?????

I do make it a point to read all so to be fully informed and relay this to the disinterested office. But in this case I admit I missed it

But I know we did NOT get a full copy of the agreement with the voting paper just bullet points, anyway I know now and thats the great thing about this site

[lovejoy]

Lovejoy, as far as I know everyone in my office received a ballot paper and those that revealed their intention said they voted no. I can confirm that those that I spoke to about the agreement did not have sight of the full agreement and were less than happy about the fact. And just to compound matters I was speaking to our Rep last week and it became clear during our conversation that he was not aware of the details contained in the full agreement. I asked him if he had seen / read the full agreement and he said no. Just as footnote, and I would guess as a result of what I have just related, our office is still starting at 06:15 hours on a Saturday. If the first and perhaps most basic part of the agreement cannot be implemented in my office I don't hold out much hope for anything thing else to be agreed at a local level. Hope the above won't sound like a rant because that is not the intention, it's just the way it is.

Your not alone, I don't remember seeing a full copy of the agreement in with the voting slip. I printed off 5 copies of the agreement when it was put on this website and passed them round at work.

Poshpost i obviously can't speak for you but i know all members in my area got the full agreement....... In addition to this all branches had copies sent to them, it was on the CWU website and generally in wide circulation. I suggest that if your REP never got a copy then there are some serious issues in your branch!!!

[DGP1]

Lovejoy, as far as I know everyone in my office received a ballot paper and those that revealed their intention said they voted no. I can confirm that those that I spoke to about the agreement did not have sight of the full agreement and were less than happy about the fact. And just to compound matters I was speaking to our Rep last week and it became clear during our conversation that he was not aware of the details contained in the full agreement. I asked him if he had seen / read the full agreement and he said no. Just as footnote, and I would guess as a result of what I have just related, our office is still starting at 06:15 hours on a Saturday. If the first and perhaps most basic part of the agreement cannot be implemented in my office I don't hold out much hope for anything thing else to be agreed at a local level. Hope the above won't sound like a rant because that is not the intention, it's just the way it is.

Your not alone, I don't remember seeing a full copy of the agreement in with the voting slip. I printed off 5 copies of the agreement when it was put on this website and passed them round at work.

Poshpost i obviously can't speak for you but i know all members in my area got the full agreement....... In addition to this all branches had copies sent to them, it was on the CWU website and generally in wide circulation. I suggest that if your REP never got a copy then there are some serious issues in your branch!!!

Would that be like Northern Ireland then

The only copies my office had were the ones I printed off and distributed myself

[doveston]

how many people feel like saying shove the 1.5 & 400 quid,i do

[POSTMAN]

My rep told me before the vote that long and shorts WERE'NT in the agreement!
I obviously put him straight!

[laudrup11]

how many people feel like saying shove the 1.5 & 400 quid,i do

Correct mate.
If push comes to shove the members will happily knock back 1.5% and £400 if they feel they are being rushed/ cajoled /threatened into situations we dont want.
My area recommendation was a 'no' but we have it and we need to make the best of it. That means NO agreement on so called 'summer staffing' or 6 into 5 until proper trials are conducted within your postcode. NO longer deliveries -3and a half hours still stands, and no agreements on collapsing of duties without guidance from your area/div reps.
Lets instead push our agenda - 4 day weeks, 9 day fortnights etc etc.

[johnnyp]

how many people feel like saying shove the 1.5 & 400 quid,i do

Correct mate.
If push comes to shove the members will happily knock back 1.5% and £400 if they feel they are being rushed/ cajoled /threatened into situations we dont want.
My area recommendation was a 'no' but we have it and we need to make the best of it. That means NO agreement on so called 'summer staffing' or 6 into 5 until proper trials are conducted within your postcode. NO longer deliveries -3and a half hours still stands, and no agreements on collapsing of duties without guidance from your area/div reps.
Lets instead push our agenda - 4 day weeks, 9 day fortnights etc etc.

Agree with yor points 100% laudrup11 This is what its all about,change but with benefits for the membership, not all one sided.