Signing for recorded/special deliveries yourself.

Edward Hunter · Post by **Edward Hunter** » 04 Feb 2008, 22:36

What the fella who loves the smell of letters is saying, is totally commonplace behaviour at my DO. As i said before i personally, do the job as it should be done, but listening about, the stuff he is on about goes on all the time. One bonus for the customers when flexibility comes in, will be that alot of corner cutting will be stiopped as there is no time to be made.

Post by **dvbuk55** » 05 Feb 2008, 11:36

k66yla wrote:Good grief, I can't believe half the stuff I'm reading, where do they get these people from? No wonder I get customers coming in complaining to me if we've got people that don't know how to do the job properly working for RM.

They know how to do the job properly but chose not to. Bet the guys knuckles are pretty raw.

Up Hill Down Hill · Post by **Up Hill Down Hill** » 05 Feb 2008, 15:15

Tried cutting down on the whole signing for but theres too many people I know too well who have said they don't mind me signing/a neighbour signing to save them the bother of having to travel to the depot (can no longer leave at the local p/o as they hardly exist)

You're talking a 20minute bus trip at times (for those who have no car)

LUV THE SMELL OF LETTERS · Post by **LUV THE SMELL OF LETTERS** » 05 Feb 2008, 15:50

This is another reason why and the customer wins again

apple · Post by **apple** » 05 Feb 2008, 16:12

have signed for 3 items and told the boss on return, they were blind and one had her hands well bandaged, had them burnt poor bugger, common sense i think, made sure the boss knew etc and marked reason why

we had one guy in our DO that used to just sign for them if they weren't in to save him time, he stopped this as he got the sack for it when some one complained,

people have said to me if i get any will you sign for them, told them i wouldn't, would leave with neighbour as i think that is ok, as on the back of the 739

Up Hill Down Hill · Post by **Up Hill Down Hill** » 05 Feb 2008, 16:35

Haven't you ever had a neighbour sign and say just post it through for them?

Not much difference than if we sign for them ourselves, I mean the end result is the same (if not better as you can't always trust a neighbour)

apple · Post by **apple** » 05 Feb 2008, 16:46

the person that is to get the item asked if i would leave with neighbour, that's ok
always leave the item with whoever signed for it, put 739 in to tell them have left with neighbour as prior arrangement

they must trust the neighbour if they ask for it

not my signature on the card so is a bit diff i think

Post by **dvbuk55** » 05 Feb 2008, 16:56

Up Hill Down Hill wrote:Tried cutting down on the whole signing for but theres too many people I know too well who have said they don't mind me signing/a neighbour signing to save them the bother of having to travel to the depot (can no longer leave at the local p/o as they hardly exist)

You're talking a 20minute bus trip at times (for those who have no car)

That's not your problem, the first time there is an anomaly, that's your problem. Believe me I have seen it happen where a guy was told it was OK to sign, something went missing or purportedly went missing and he was disciplined and was lucky not to get binned.

LUV THE SMELL OF LETTERS · Post by **LUV THE SMELL OF LETTERS** » 05 Feb 2008, 20:13

I think we know the risks. Hold my hands up If i get caught. Been doing it over 4 year now so the way its all going think Ill just crack on. Just rather go home then back to the depot. And I think most of the punters would appreciate the fact it saves them going there to.

che-guevara · Post by **che-guevara** » 06 Feb 2008, 22:15

A guy with twenty years under his belt, had a letter on his bench saying he could sign for this address.
One monday morning, signs for a special delivery & posts it through.
Goes into work Tuesday & is called into office.
He's told the guy he signed it for had phoned up & said he hadn't recieved it (it, being an envelope with Â£570 cash in it)
Outcome, the postie was lucky to get a 2 year serious, they wanted to sack him, it was only because his DOM had known him for so long & believed him that he didn't lose his job.
The customer got his cash refunded.
Just don't do it.
When you sign that special out of the security locker, you are signing a contract to say you will attempt to deliver that, as addressed & acquire a signature for it, from the address it is addressed too.
NO WHERE ELSE, not with a neighbour, not at their work place & definetly not by you.
NEVER EVER SIGN FOR IT.
(unless it is for a disabled or blind person who has given written consent (& then it's at your own risk)).

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 06 Feb 2008, 22:44

Feckin RM cowboys, ship em in strip em down ship em out

james · Post by **james** » 07 Feb 2008, 00:07

I asked an elderly lady one day to sign there in box no 2 thanks .sorry son i'm blind was the reply i went as red as anything asked the lady could i print her name and state she is blind and have done so many times .as have i done with woman with babies !there are far more inporttent thing in the world than being too strict,the royal mail can sack me if they wish i welcome them too.

stubaby · Post by **stubaby** » 07 Feb 2008, 08:28

che-guevara wrote:A guy with twenty years under his belt, had a letter on his bench saying he could sign for this address.
One monday morning, signs for a special delivery & posts it through.
Goes into work Tuesday & is called into office.
He's told the guy he signed it for had phoned up & said he hadn't recieved it (it, being an envelope with Â£570 cash in it)
Outcome, the postie was lucky to get a 2 year serious, they wanted to sack him, it was only because his DOM had known him for so long & believed him that he didn't lose his job.
The customer got his cash refunded.
Just don't do it.
When you sign that special out of the security locker, you are signing a contract to say you will attempt to deliver that, as addressed & acquire a signature for it, from the address it is addressed too.
NO WHERE ELSE, not with a neighbour, not at their work place & definetly not by you.
NEVER EVER SIGN FOR IT.
(unless it is for a disabled or blind person who has given written consent (& then it's at your own risk)).

I am sorry but that is bollox.
If there is a letter saying that you can sign for the mail then the person from that address takes full responsibility if it goes missing.
If it went to an IT RM would get blown out of the water.

mitzi · Post by **mitzi** » 07 Feb 2008, 15:42

not bollox at all. the contract for the special including signature is with the sender not the recipient.

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 07 Feb 2008, 16:03

mitzi wrote:not bollox at all. the contract for the special including signature is with the sender not the recipient.

Well is the contract for Recorded Delivery with the sender not the recipient too, such that we should not accept any letters giving us permission to sign ?