Pegasus

[ruralpostie]

I attended a regional briefing and I just had a quick flick though my notes, We were told that CWU HQ had put forward a walk speed of 2.6 Mph as apposed to RM's 4.0 Mph and a call rate of 92% as apposed to the 75% Rm wanted.

Can anyone that is involved in Pegasus/Geo confirm that agreement has been reached Nationally and that these figures are correct?

Yes, I agree it would be interesting to know the criteria for pegasus to work accurately..Is there even an agreement between the CWU and RM on walking speed,penetration rate etc, I've just heard they "tweak" it accordingly to suit!!!

[k979aaa]

Pegasus is a management toy to get the hourage down and theirfor to meet the budget to get their bonus and f*ck the rest next the call rate will be 10% and walk speed 31 mph total bulls*it!. IF PIGS COULD FLY THEY WOULD BE CALLED PEGASUS!. :cfo & :lfo

[ray of sunshine]

We have had someone trying to get rid of 8 walks using pegasus.The results went up today.
On our section there was 6 walks, now down to 4.My walk has from 400 to 700 the biggest walk on my section.The other 3 walks has only 500 drops. Some of the roads they have put on mine, fine if u have a car, but if not u have to get the bus to the next drop.
One walk in redditch had 800 drops.The union has knocked that pegasus plan on the head.
Someone for the past 6 mts has got paid for messing up our walks and it has lead to nothing

[Fluke]

We have had someone trying to get rid of 8 walks using pegasus.The results went up today.
On our section there was 6 walks, now down to 4.My walk has from 400 to 700 the biggest walk on my section.The other 3 walks has only 500 drops. Some of the roads they have put on mine, fine if u have a car, but if not u have to get the bus to the next drop.
One walk in redditch had 800 drops.The union has knocked that pegasus plan on the head.
Someone for the past 6 mts has got paid for messing up our walks and it has lead to nothing

Two managers have spent the last six months trying to find a way of getting Pegasus to reduce the number of walks in my office, and have failed to do it. The DOM is now binning Pegasus and is having a go at table top planning to get his reduction. The office is still trying to recover from his last round of Feck-ups, when he tried equalising the walks. Part of his plan to make savings is getting people to cover sick and anual leave for nothing! It make you sick, especially when they managed to find 200 useless twats to cover 100 Burslem workers.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Part of his plan to make savings is getting people to cover sick and anual leave for nothing! It make you sick, especially when they managed to find 200 useless twats to cover 100 Burslem workers.

This is what I cant work out. They want us to cover sickness and leave during the hottest part of the year which in theory, and to those who don't actually do the job seems fair. However, have they taken into account that walking longer distances in hotter weather will take more effort, therefore people will become fatigued quicker.

http://www.deir.qld.gov.au/workplace/su ... e/effects/

Work performance

High levels of fatigue cause reduced performance and productivity, and increases the risk of accidents and injuries. Fatigue affects the ability to think clearly. As a result people who are fatigued are unable to gauge their own level of impairment, and are unaware that they are not functioning as well or as safely as they would be if they were not fatigued.

Performance levels drop as work periods become longer and sleep loss increases. Staying awake for 17 hours has the same effect on performance as having a blood alcohol content of 0.05%. Staying awake for 21 hours is equivalent to a blood alcohol content of 0.1%.

The most common effects associated with fatigue are:

* Desire to sleep;
* Lack of concentration;
* Impaired recollection of timing and events;
* Irritability;
* Poor judgement;
* Reduced capacity for communicating with others;
* Reduced hand-eye coordination;
* Reduced visual perception;
* Reduced vigilance;
* Reduced capacity to judge risk; and
* Slower reaction times.

Not only do these effects decrease performance and productivity within the workplace, but they simultaneously increase the potential for incidents and injuries to occur. People working in a fatigued state may place themselves and others at risk, most particularly:

* When operating machinery (including driving vehicles);
* When performing critical tasks that require a high level of concentration; and
* Where the consequence of error is serious.

Health effects of fatigue

The effects of fatigue increase with age. People over 50 years of age tend to have lighter, fragmented sleep; which can prevent them from receiving the recuperative effects from a full night of sleep, and can make them more likely to become fatigued.

Lack of sleep has been indirectly linked with the following health effects:

* Heart disease and high blood pressure;
* Stomach disorders;
* Mental illnesses; and
* Lower fertility.

When the circadian rhythm is disrupted, the treatment of some medical conditions can be affected. Examples of medical conditions which may be affected include:

* Asthma;
* Depression; and
* Diabetes.

Heart disease and high blood pressure

Circadian disruptions affect eating and sleeping habits and have been linked to the following types of cardiovascular disease:

* Coronary heart disease (blocked arteries in the heart);
* Ischaemic heart disease (blocked arteries leading to lack of oxygen to the heart muscle);
* High blood pressure; and
* Myocardial infarction (heart attack).

Stomach disorders

The body rhythm for digestion is designed for food to be eaten during the day irrespective of whether an individual is working or resting. The most common complaints include:

* Bowel habit changes;
* Digestive complaints; and
* Increased risk of peptic (stomach) ulcers.

Mental health

Anxiety and depression can be triggered or made worse by fatigue and irregular sleep patterns.
Lower fertility

Fatigue and irregular sleep patterns have been associated with a number of negative effects for pregnant women and fertility rates, including:

* Increased risk of miscarriage;
* Low birth weight; and
* Higher occurrence of premature births.

[jemima]

The silly thing is, that Georoute (see http://www.giro.ca/en/products/georoute ... ations.htm for example product details) would be a valuable tool for route planning if used properly. It's like most computer programmes, if you give it rubbish data you get rubbish results. If you input realistic walk speeds and call rates, as the Union recommends, you will get realistic walk plans out - but management don't really want realistic walk plans, they want savings. If a manager finds that Georoute doesn't deliver the savings with realistic input data, he needs to admit to his boss that the savings can't be made - after all, he has the Georoute output to show, to prove that. Having the courage to admit something can't be done is not a management failure, it's a management strength that gives you the opportunity to move on to something more productive....

Re covering for other people in the summer, it's lovely outside early in the morning. Doing an extra morning on your day off, if you wanted to, wouldn't do you any harm. It's the longer deliveries that take you into the hottest part of the afternoons that are not so good and will cause fatigue. There might be a dehydration problem too, and each postie will have to know when enough is enough. RM aren't likely to sympathise if you make yourself ill trying to cover for other people.

[smokerjim]

Re covering for other people in the summer, it's lovely outside early in the morning. Doing an extra morning on your day off, if you wanted to, wouldn't do you any harm. It's the longer deliveries that take you into the hottest part of the afternoons that are not so good and will cause fatigue. There might be a dehydration problem too, and each postie will have to know when enough is enough. RM aren't likely to sympathise if you make yourself ill trying to cover for other people.

The bit I highlighted is the intresting bit for me - we could make more of the day, and do more before causing ourselves harm IF everybody started their working day at 5am......how many disabilities and fatalities that can ( but won't ) be attributed to working longer in hotter weather are going to occur, before someone says "Get everyone to start at 5am during British Summer Time!"

[Sparx71]

Sarcastically...
We have pegasus up and running in our office.Only 5% of the deliveries were tested and many went over 3 1/2 hours.Nothing was altered as this was said to be an average...Now the DO's are being hassled by management for not being able to complete.We were promised an 8 week review to address any problems,but I feel this will involve the DO being prep tested and told he/she is too slow..plus none of the driving turns were tested.

[fmjomega]

We have had a gander at 5 walks in our office, the average number of calls is 690, the walk that was tested had the union rep and one line manager present with the delivery officer.

They had decided that the walk would be a trolley walk so after getting him to throw off on his normal frame then take this upstairs in sections to his new frame and reprep it and then take the part of the delivery from another frame and prep that in they then set off, this was about 11AM at 1520 they strolled back in after the manager came back to the office twice for a toilet stop, then went and got drinks for the other 2. The DOM has decided that a trolley is the wrong option and now they are going to try again with a cycle as they belive that the ott 50 minutes is/was caused by the trolley and the lack of experience using one by the DO. He believes he can bring it down by doing this to exactly 3 1/2 hrs, now bring on summertime and he then wants him to cover half a walk of the 5 man section of day off rotates if one of those are off on leave. So I thought i would look at our leave schedule in my day off rotate section we have 4 off in the same week in August, so by going by his advice/idea one guy/girl has to cover the other 4. The last bit was sarcasm but just think as all us posties are now classed as superhuman according to pegasus this might be possible according to the computer and that 5 walks one postie will soon be the norm.

Now correct me if i am wrong but doesnt pegasus have an input to it that you can select van/trolley/foot/cycle delivery and as such to then change this to suit the results is at best a fib at worst a goddamn effin lie?

[L Tommo]

A pegasus is a Mythical flying horse... Now thats just about the strength of it mates....


Good luck with your georoutes/horseshite planning in all Offices...

Jemima.. I agree whole heartedly with your points...

But when will a screw use ANY INFO with common sense???? I dont think they ever do or will....

out :cfo :lfo

[Up Hill Down Hill]

Our rounds have been changed at our office just, Is that pegasus though?

[DGP1]

Our rounds have been changed at our office just, Is that pegasus though?

You'd need to ask your union rep because he'd have been involved in arranging it.

[LUV THE SMELL OF LETTERS]

we have this in our office at minute. we have been told that it runs at 5 mph which is too fast. should be set to 3.5 mph. when the pegasus chucks out the walks it prints them out as the way the crow flys. as in one big area like square miles. it dosnt take into account of alleys and walls and the likes. The union rep hasnt agreed to the walks and the office staff have to start all over again.

[Fluke]

we have this in our office at minute. we have been told that it runs at 5 mph which is too fast. should be set to 3.5 mph. when the pegasus chucks out the walks it prints them out as the way the crow flys. as in one big area like square miles. it dosnt take into account of alleys and walls and the likes. The union rep hasnt agreed to the walks and the office staff have to start all over again.

At my Pegasus brief I was told the agreed walk speed with the CWU was 2.6 mph, and I think that is still to fast with weight on your shoulder. This is going to cripple people as they get older.

[Up Hill Down Hill]

All Pegasus seems to of achieved here (It's been done apparently) is make the easy rounds harder and the harder rounds easier (which sounds fair enough) - however instead of meeting half way they have now made the ex easy rounds too hard by 30mins and the ex hard rounds too easy my 30mins instead of splitting them right down the middle