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How Can This End?

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pinstripe
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Re: How Can This End?

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LaggyBand wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 22:18

Ok. David Rockerfeller starts up Trilateral Commission, fronted up by Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger. Henry Kissinger puts up Klaus Schwab as top dog at World Economic Forum. WEF tasked with bringing in UBI, CBDCs, and an end to private ownership.

WEF coordinate national economic policy through its young global leaders program, notable figures include Jacinda Ardern, Justin Trudeau, Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Ursula Von Der Leyen, amongst others.

You asked who was in charge, I told you, what the plan was, I told you, and who the foot soldiers were; I told
David Rockefeller died over 5 years ago, his son David Rockefeller Jr is in his 80’s. Henry Kissinger is 99, neither of them will be around much longer. The “young global leaders program”, you included Joe Biden? And Boris Johnson. That’s how we can tell you just copy/pasted some rubbish you don’t understand from the internet. Just because you believe it, doesn’t make it true
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Re: How Can This End?

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pinstripe wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 23:45
LaggyBand wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 22:18

Ok. David Rockerfeller starts up Trilateral Commission, fronted up by Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger. Henry Kissinger puts up Klaus Schwab as top dog at World Economic Forum. WEF tasked with bringing in UBI, CBDCs, and an end to private ownership.

WEF coordinate national economic policy through its young global leaders program, notable figures include Jacinda Ardern, Justin Trudeau, Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Ursula Von Der Leyen, amongst others.

You asked who was in charge, I told you, what the plan was, I told you, and who the foot soldiers were; I told
David Rockefeller died over 5 years ago, his son David Rockefeller Jr is in his 80’s. Henry Kissinger is 99, neither of them will be around much longer. The “young global leaders program”, you included Joe Biden? And Boris Johnson. That’s how we can tell you just copy/pasted some rubbish you don’t understand from the internet. Just because you believe it, doesn’t make it true
Well it is true. Biden and Johnson are both puppets of the WEF. The age of Rockerfeller and Kissinger is immaterial, because like I said, via the Trilateral Commission, we now we have Schwab.

On topic, this could end in line with the plan for the economy in general. People broke, desperate, and willing to accept Universal Basic Income administered via a Central Bank Digital Currency. Not tomorrow, but this decade.

Do you deny Klaus Schwab wants the end of private ownership, a new global financial system, and that this is now affecting government policy in the U.K.?
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Re: How Can This End?

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Klaus Schwab is 84 mate. Come on, why don’t you add Rupert Murdoch to your list. Or better yet, Rod Stewart, Ringo Starr and Mick Jagger.

Look, I’ll give you a more believable conspiracy theory, Obama is actually Emperor Palpatine in black face. The Death Star was an inside job, Star Trek is real, so is Doctor Who. There is a secret base on the moon operated by China and Waitrose. Global warming is a scam designed by scientists to promote a Scandinavian teenager to world power. Take your pick, I can make up more if you don’t like these. Admit it, none of these are as far fetched as the one you keep advancing.
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Re: How Can This End?

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pinstripe wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 03:26
Klaus Schwab is 84 mate. Come on, why don’t you add Rupert Murdoch to your list. Or better yet, Rod Stewart, Ringo Starr and Mick Jagger.

Look, I’ll give you a more believable conspiracy theory, Obama is actually Emperor Palpatine in black face. The Death Star was an inside job, Star Trek is real, so is Doctor Who. There is a secret base on the moon operated by China and Waitrose. Global warming is a scam designed by scientists to promote a Scandinavian teenager to world power. Take your pick, I can make up more if you don’t like these. Admit it, none of these are as far fetched as the one you keep advancing.
I agree that it all seems far fetched and that you would be mad to just believe it based on the opinions of a few posties but have a look at the World Economic Forums own web site and see what their vision of the future is. Look at who attends their meetings.
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Re: How Can This End?

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You all ask how does it all end and yet you are absolutely clueless as to what is driving economic policy.

Absolutely NO WAY a CEO of a big firm like ours doesn’t know which way things are headed. They’re less interested in Love Island and football.

It’s going to be interesting to see how far things get before the normies realise the crazies were right.
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Re: How Can This End?

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Caesar wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 05:21
pinstripe wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 03:26
Klaus Schwab is 84 mate. Come on, why don’t you add Rupert Murdoch to your list. Or better yet, Rod Stewart, Ringo Starr and Mick Jagger.

Look, I’ll give you a more believable conspiracy theory, Obama is actually Emperor Palpatine in black face. The Death Star was an inside job, Star Trek is real, so is Doctor Who. There is a secret base on the moon operated by China and Waitrose. Global warming is a scam designed by scientists to promote a Scandinavian teenager to world power. Take your pick, I can make up more if you don’t like these. Admit it, none of these are as far fetched as the one you keep advancing.
I agree that it all seems far fetched and that you would be mad to just believe it based on the opinions of a few posties but have a look at the World Economic Forums own web site and see what their vision of the future is. Look at who attends their meetings.
It isnt even that far fetched its been known for decade's thats what the term "globalist" means its basically world communism you just have to see how simon thompson is acting and the people in power giving the rich the tax breaks and the energy giants making billions its only far fetched if your ignorant to it.
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Re: How Can This End?

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Gasman11 wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 21:22
Simple, keep supporting strike action, as we go into next month it will really turn the screw in our favour ahead of RMs critical trading period. Sacrificing a few days pay for our long term future is an absolute no brainer even in these cash strapped times. Stay strong everyone.
I thought hitting the Royal Mail bosses with strike's at Christmas would be in our favour too but they seem undeterred. No doubt they have put plans in place to cover those strike days & I can see alot of staff giving up around Christmas.
A show of public support would be something that could work in our favour or maybe someone should start a online petition calling for Simon to go. Anything that puts more heat on Simon needs to be done.
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Re: How Can This End?

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Mailc81 wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 22:36
I asked before and never got an answer, but if the union are taking 10 million pounds a year in subs, why can’t we have a strike fund?
Get a calculator and you’ll work it out
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: How Can This End?

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Well id was meant to have a parcel delivered by RM because DPD option was £5, but the shipper has just messaged me that they are sending with DPD anyway so they dont loose my business.
Thats how its going to end. Everyone using any courier but us, Thompson and the board members will be off to sunny clims to spend millions without a worry and the workforce at RM will all be looking for new jobs at the sametime ( mostly on worse terms and conditions and lower pay than what is currently proposed) The union will be finished but as the likes Terry and Dave are rich men they wont care and will happily retire.
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Re: How Can This End?

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2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 10:00
Well id was meant to have a parcel delivered by RM because DPD option was £5, but the shipper has just messaged me that they are sending with DPD anyway so they dont loose my business.
Thats how its going to end. Everyone using any courier but us, Thompson and the board members will be off to sunny clims to spend millions without a worry and the workforce at RM will all be looking for new jobs at the sametime ( mostly on worse terms and conditions and lower pay than what is currently proposed) The union will be finished but as the likes Terry and Dave are rich men they wont care and will happily retire.
GOOD - bring it on !
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Re: How Can This End?

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CRIBMAD wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 15:42
2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 10:00
Well id was meant to have a parcel delivered by RM because DPD option was £5, but the shipper has just messaged me that they are sending with DPD anyway so they dont loose my business.
Thats how its going to end. Everyone using any courier but us, Thompson and the board members will be off to sunny clims to spend millions without a worry and the workforce at RM will all be looking for new jobs at the sametime ( mostly on worse terms and conditions and lower pay than what is currently proposed) The union will be finished but as the likes Terry and Dave are rich men they wont care and will happily retire.
GOOD - bring it on !
You might be happy to be unemployed, im not. the simple answer is for you and anyone with your midset to go.
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Re: How Can This End?

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LaggyBand wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 06:58
You all ask how does it all end and yet you are absolutely clueless as to what is driving economic policy.

Absolutely NO WAY a CEO of a big firm like ours doesn’t know which way things are headed. They’re less interested in Love Island and football.

It’s going to be interesting to see how far things get before the normies realise the crazies were right.
Honestly mate. The people who fill your head with this paranoid crud do not have your best interests at heart. They're not on your side, they're preying on vulnerable people. It's a grift.

When things are bleak it's sometimes more comfortable to believe that the people in charge are working to some kind of masterplan. The truth is much more boring and scary - they're just ordinary people who got a lucky roll of a dice. They're no better than you or I. They're not evil geniuses, they're blagging it, just like the rest of us.

That's the last I'll say on this. I honestly hope you get out of this dark rabbit hole you're in, you'll feel a lot happier for it.
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Re: How Can This End?

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Mailc81 wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 22:36
I asked before and never got an answer, but if the union are taking 10 million pounds a year in subs, why can’t we have a strike fund?
Do you own a calculator?
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Re: How Can This End?

Post by robking »

mjd24 wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:02
Mailc81 wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 22:36
I asked before and never got an answer, but if the union are taking 10 million pounds a year in subs, why can’t we have a strike fund?
Do you own a calculator?
I pay a little under £180 a year in union fees, if everyone else is the same that's all we could ever get back even if the union had no expenditure.
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Re: How Can This End?

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Weetrogg2 wrote:
04 Oct 2022, 22:44
Pensions
Attendance patterns
Annual leave
Sick pay
Start times
Sunday’s
Allowances
IHR
Redundancy

The list above is not exhaustive. I cannot believe people are willing to give these things up so meekly.😞😞

If we take all the action that has been announced in financial terms it’s about a £1500 loss of pay. Imagine slipping on delivery and breaking your ankle that puts you on the sick for 10 weeks, if we lose this dispute RM will have you on statutory sick pay (£90 ish PW) which means in that 10 wk period alone you would be around £3000 down from what you would receive currently.

Me and my wife both work for RM, we have 3 kid’s and a mortgage and undoubtedly the strikes will be very difficult financially and mentally but it has to be done.

Across our branch/area the strike is 100% solid. Striking is our only chance to save our hard fought, over generations, T&Cs and dignity in the workplace.

It’s a fight we may lose but if we don’t fight we will definitely lose.✊✊✊
I thought SSP was only for the first week of any absence after your first.