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This deal is a pay cut

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Navalron
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 1044
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Gender: Male
Location: Glasgow

Re: This deal is a pay cut

Post by Navalron »

FilthyBloke wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:06
Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 09:14
2yearpostie wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 13:42
Navalron wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 01:58
2yearpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 18:24
No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.
Your just a noise up. Dxxxhead.
Hi honey! you dont even work at RM anymore so why your concerned enough to be posting on a postie site at midnight is just frankly a bit wierd.
Because idiots like you are prepared to throw away all the hard fought terms and conditions. Also I'm a union rep who stands by my fellow union membership in other unions. We all should be working TOGETHER to win our disputes. But loosers like you, well, there's no hope. As for posting my comment on you at midnight, well we also work 24/7 but we get decent payments for overtime ect. Fuds like you shouldn't get the pay increase as your quite happy not to be in a union paying subs but take the extra pay. Your part time and probably getting some sort of housing benefit/ universal credit to top up your wages. Boy are you in for a shock. No longer are people going to be able to sit on 20/25 hours pay and part benefits. My jobcentreplus colleagues are going to make sure you get another part time job to make you call out of support. I'm against this but sometimes wonder if twats like you deserve it. By now. :thumbup
You say you’re a union rep and then throw insults at someone.
Go figure.
Only replying to him talking me and the unions down. Took enough of his bull. Read his posts.
FilthyBloke
Posts: 685
Joined: 03 Jun 2018, 11:41
Gender: Male

Re: This deal is a pay cut

Post by FilthyBloke »

Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:10
FilthyBloke wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:06
Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 09:14
2yearpostie wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 13:42
Navalron wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 01:58
2yearpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 18:24
No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.
Your just a noise up. Dxxxhead.
Hi honey! you dont even work at RM anymore so why your concerned enough to be posting on a postie site at midnight is just frankly a bit wierd.
Because idiots like you are prepared to throw away all the hard fought terms and conditions. Also I'm a union rep who stands by my fellow union membership in other unions. We all should be working TOGETHER to win our disputes. But loosers like you, well, there's no hope. As for posting my comment on you at midnight, well we also work 24/7 but we get decent payments for overtime ect. Fuds like you shouldn't get the pay increase as your quite happy not to be in a union paying subs but take the extra pay. Your part time and probably getting some sort of housing benefit/ universal credit to top up your wages. Boy are you in for a shock. No longer are people going to be able to sit on 20/25 hours pay and part benefits. My jobcentreplus colleagues are going to make sure you get another part time job to make you call out of support. I'm against this but sometimes wonder if twats like you deserve it. By now. :thumbup
You say you’re a union rep and then throw insults at someone.
Go figure.
Only replying to him talking me and the unions down. Took enough of his bull. Read his posts.
I get that, but in one sweeping comment he’s an ‘idiot’, a ‘t*at’, probably on ‘housing benefits’ and doesn’t deserve a pay deal.

And I’m not targeting you as such here but I don’t think reps should ignore or isolate strike breakers as that’s in the unions own handbook of how to treat all employees (CWU anyway). And I think union reps should not resort to name calling. Otherwise all you have is a school yard mentality like in my office.

This dispute has really made the work place toxic.
Navalron
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 1044
Joined: 12 Aug 2017, 10:40
Gender: Male
Location: Glasgow

Re: This deal is a pay cut

Post by Navalron »

FilthyBloke wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:16
Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:10
FilthyBloke wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:06
Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 09:14
2yearpostie wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 13:42
Navalron wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 01:58
2yearpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 18:24
No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.
Your just a noise up. Dxxxhead.
Hi honey! you dont even work at RM anymore so why your concerned enough to be posting on a postie site at midnight is just frankly a bit wierd.
Because idiots like you are prepared to throw away all the hard fought terms and conditions. Also I'm a union rep who stands by my fellow union membership in other unions. We all should be working TOGETHER to win our disputes. But loosers like you, well, there's no hope. As for posting my comment on you at midnight, well we also work 24/7 but we get decent payments for overtime ect. Fuds like you shouldn't get the pay increase as your quite happy not to be in a union paying subs but take the extra pay. Your part time and probably getting some sort of housing benefit/ universal credit to top up your wages. Boy are you in for a shock. No longer are people going to be able to sit on 20/25 hours pay and part benefits. My jobcentreplus colleagues are going to make sure you get another part time job to make you call out of support. I'm against this but sometimes wonder if twats like you deserve it. By now. :thumbup
You say you’re a union rep and then throw insults at someone.
Go figure.
Only replying to him talking me and the unions down. Took enough of his bull. Read his posts.
I get that, but in one sweeping comment he’s an ‘idiot’, a ‘t*at’, probably on ‘housing benefits’ and doesn’t deserve a pay deal.

And I’m not targeting you as such here but I don’t think reps should ignore or isolate strike breakers as that’s in the unions own handbook of how to treat all employees (CWU anyway). And I think union reps should not resort to name calling. Otherwise all you have is a school yard mentality like in my office.

This dispute has really made the work place toxic.
Your probably correct mate. One of those days. :thumbup
FilthyBloke
Posts: 685
Joined: 03 Jun 2018, 11:41
Gender: Male

Re: This deal is a pay cut

Post by FilthyBloke »

Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:22
FilthyBloke wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:16
Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:10
FilthyBloke wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 10:06
Navalron wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 09:14
2yearpostie wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 13:42
Navalron wrote:
24 Apr 2023, 01:58
2yearpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 18:24
No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.
Your just a noise up. Dxxxhead.
Hi honey! you dont even work at RM anymore so why your concerned enough to be posting on a postie site at midnight is just frankly a bit wierd.
Because idiots like you are prepared to throw away all the hard fought terms and conditions. Also I'm a union rep who stands by my fellow union membership in other unions. We all should be working TOGETHER to win our disputes. But loosers like you, well, there's no hope. As for posting my comment on you at midnight, well we also work 24/7 but we get decent payments for overtime ect. Fuds like you shouldn't get the pay increase as your quite happy not to be in a union paying subs but take the extra pay. Your part time and probably getting some sort of housing benefit/ universal credit to top up your wages. Boy are you in for a shock. No longer are people going to be able to sit on 20/25 hours pay and part benefits. My jobcentreplus colleagues are going to make sure you get another part time job to make you call out of support. I'm against this but sometimes wonder if twats like you deserve it. By now. :thumbup
You say you’re a union rep and then throw insults at someone.
Go figure.
Only replying to him talking me and the unions down. Took enough of his bull. Read his posts.
I get that, but in one sweeping comment he’s an ‘idiot’, a ‘t*at’, probably on ‘housing benefits’ and doesn’t deserve a pay deal.

And I’m not targeting you as such here but I don’t think reps should ignore or isolate strike breakers as that’s in the unions own handbook of how to treat all employees (CWU anyway). And I think union reps should not resort to name calling. Otherwise all you have is a school yard mentality like in my office.

This dispute has really made the work place toxic.
Your probably correct mate. One of those days. :thumbup
I wouldn’t want to be in any reps shoes at the minute! I keep saying in here that people should think twice before leaving the union but people are so angry. My office you have two reps and they are both going around saying different things about the vote. The members are arguing with one another and the place is miserable.

I think in times like these the union SHOULD be paying the reps!
Drezlar
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Gender: Male

Re: This deal is a pay cut

Post by Drezlar »

There as so many absolute twat shills on this forum now that it's really not worth reading at all. Don't engage with them, don't argue because they're not worth the time and you'll never change their minds.
k979aaa
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Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: This deal is a pay cut

Post by k979aaa »

Was minded to accept it but having read it all will not do so as ever the devil is in the detail so after much research and listening on here have come to a conclusion and the money on offer is not a fair trade for our terms and conditions. Nor is it compatible with anyones future in RM now they will force you all out of your job sorry this is why I cannot agree this it is not the money but what they will subject you all to gain a bonus ie force you out of your job!