What parts of the deal are below the 1996 employment rights act, out of interest?
The extra 2 hours in the winter.
Under the act, When variable hours are worked, pay should be averaged out over a maximum of 12 weeks. Under the deal we will not be paid for those extra hours until the following summer. That is well short of our statutory right.
It is moot though as if a no vote is returned, Royal Mail will likely resort to their original plan of moving start times beyond those two hours and we will all be working later anyway.
Ah, alas I wish this were true Mr stones. You have already proved your point spectacularly wrong by quoting me and thus noticing me. I also have a legion of groupies who follow me around this site quoting every post I make.
What parts of the deal are below the 1996 employment rights act, out of interest?
The extra 2 hours in the winter.
Under the act, When variable hours are worked, pay should be averaged out over a maximum of 12 weeks. Under the deal we will not be paid for those extra hours until the following summer. That is well short of our statutory right.
It is moot though as if a no vote is returned, Royal Mail will likely resort to their original plan of moving start times beyond those two hours and we will all be working later anyway.
Ah, alas I wish this were true Mr stones. You have already proved your point spectacularly wrong by quoting me and thus noticing me. I also have a legion of groupies who follow me around this site quoting every post I make.
Well you're not going to get a refund that's for sure,there is only one winner out of this so called deal (sorry 2 ) RM and people who get allowances, it seems the union we're more hell bent on keeping allowances at the cost of US (foot soldiers) than anything else,heaven's above the office I'm at people still retain PHG grade from way back when (by the way one is a union rep) now these turkey's will vote for Christmas I'm voting no but I understand exactly where you're coming from.
Well you're not going to get a refund that's for sure,there is only one winner out of this so called deal (sorry 2 ) RM and people who get allowances, it seems the union we're more hell bent on keeping allowances at the cost of US (foot soldiers) than anything else,heaven's above the office I'm at people still retain PHG grade from way back when (by the way one is a union rep) now these turkey's will vote for Christmas I'm voting no but I understand exactly where you're coming from.
Why would anybody go running to the union when they left there hard working union reps who have been suspended to rot what a total joke cwu leadership are shameful
I’ve been a member for twenty nine years , I’ve been a union rep and now a health and safety rep I feel so let down if the vote is YES I will be leaving and I feel most of us posties will do so .
How many of you feel the same way ?
You say you've been a union rep and now a health and safety rep, is that done on a full time basis? As in you get taken off delivery duties on a permanent basis or only when needed?
I ask because we have a small office and the union rep and health and safety rep have been released full time to our nearest mail centre, meaning Royal Mail are filling these 2 posties/duties with 2 new staff meaning 4 full time wages covering 2. Do the union fork out and pay these wages out of interest? Should these reps be released on a full time basis, so they can push their empty folders around the mail centre thinking their Lord Muck? Jobs for the boys mentality. Be honest, are they in it for the skive just to get off delivery??
I was in the union for about 15 years and have been out for over a year. At a local level, the union have become an embarrassment and have been more bad than good on so many things. Thought I would just add that.
I’ve been a member for twenty nine years , I’ve been a union rep and now a health and safety rep I feel so let down if the vote is YES I will be leaving and I feel most of us posties will do so .
How many of you feel the same way ?
The union lost all power in the way forward agreement, when all the LOCAL AGREEMENTS came in. Ever since then it's been downhill. And now look at all new starts who will be most of the staff in several years, with no delivery supplement, no paid breaks, monthly pay, Less hourly rate of £11.59 ect. Why the help would they even consider joining a union who along with RM are treating them like 2nd rate/class workers. FFS.
Maybe don’t leave just yet otherwise they’ll put the same deal on the table with an extra tenner on top and it will get voted through if the no voters leave right away.
What parts of the deal are below the 1996 employment rights act, out of interest?
The extra 2 hours in the winter.
Under the act, When variable hours are worked, pay should be averaged out over a maximum of 12 weeks. Under the deal we will not be paid for those extra hours until the following summer. That is well short of our statutory right.
It is moot though as if a no vote is returned, Royal Mail will likely resort to their original plan of moving start times beyond those two hours and we will all be working later anyway.
Ah, alas I wish this were true Mr stones. You have already proved your point spectacularly wrong by quoting me and thus noticing me. I also have a legion of groupies who follow me around this site quoting every post I make.
Be careful what you wish for....if you want the additional pay within 12 weeks you would also get the reduction to pay quicker too. Why isn't getting the same pay every week a better option?
Vote of no confidence in the CWU leadership is the only way forward
Nonsense
A Vote of Confidence in the CWU should be the order of the day in getting us such a good deal, you ungrateful plebs
A good deal what planet are you on , The deal is a pathetic sell out .
Well if you think you can do any better than the CWU, then try going head to head with Simon Thompson, Rico Black and Keith Williams and see if you can do any better.
