Of course 88% is strongPOSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:48What is a strong 'yes' result? 95%? Personally I think it will be 87 to 88% which would definitely not be strongHalfhappy wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 17:12There's no advantage for RM to make a serious offer till they've seen result of the next ballot. They'd be mad to give us a decent offer, when there's a possibility of a 'No' result, or even a 'Yes' result that fails to reach the threshold. A 'No' result would allow them to do whatever they want, completely unabated. Till then they'll offer breadcrumbs to hold further action at bay. A strong 'Yes' result is the only thing that's gonna return anything for us.
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Acca Dacca
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If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Halfhappy
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How's 88% not strong? It's 36%pts more than the people who voted for Brexit, and 44%pts more than the people who voted for the last government. 88% is well over the ballot threshold, and casts aside any doubt that could be questioned upon the result.POSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:48What is a strong 'yes' result? 95%? Personally I think it will be 87 to 88% which would definitely not be strongHalfhappy wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 17:12There's no advantage for RM to make a serious offer till they've seen result of the next ballot. They'd be mad to give us a decent offer, when there's a possibility of a 'No' result, or even a 'Yes' result that fails to reach the threshold. A 'No' result would allow them to do whatever they want, completely unabated. Till then they'll offer breadcrumbs to hold further action at bay. A strong 'Yes' result is the only thing that's gonna return anything for us.
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sixfoottwo
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It's going to be 90%+ but 88% is still strong!
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Woody Guthrie
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To be honest we've been spoiled by very high results and turnouts that are not really that common across most industries.POSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:48
What is a strong 'yes' result? 95%? Personally I think it will be 87 to 88% which would definitely not be strong
Anything above an 80% Yes on a 60%+ turnout is actually a strong result.
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POSTPERSON50
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Ok, put it this way.. if 12% (1 in 8) of posties decided to break a strike our position would be seriously weakened.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:57Of course 88% is strongPOSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:48What is a strong 'yes' result? 95%? Personally I think it will be 87 to 88% which would definitely not be strongHalfhappy wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 17:12There's no advantage for RM to make a serious offer till they've seen result of the next ballot. They'd be mad to give us a decent offer, when there's a possibility of a 'No' result, or even a 'Yes' result that fails to reach the threshold. A 'No' result would allow them to do whatever they want, completely unabated. Till then they'll offer breadcrumbs to hold further action at bay. A strong 'Yes' result is the only thing that's gonna return anything for us.![]()
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Halfhappy
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Not really. Firstly, just because someone votes no, doesn't necessarily mean they'll cross a picket line. The 98% result wasn't on a 100% turn out. Secondly, the power of the 'Yes' result is the result itself. It creates leverage, and forces an unreasonable employer to the table. The goal isn't to be on strike. Let's just say, though, the 12%, who may vote no, do cross the line, that's still over 100k not crossing the line.POSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 20:15Ok, put it this way.. if 12% (1 in 8) of posties decided to break a strike our position would be seriously weakened.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:57Of course 88% is strongPOSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:48What is a strong 'yes' result? 95%? Personally I think it will be 87 to 88% which would definitely not be strongHalfhappy wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 17:12There's no advantage for RM to make a serious offer till they've seen result of the next ballot. They'd be mad to give us a decent offer, when there's a possibility of a 'No' result, or even a 'Yes' result that fails to reach the threshold. A 'No' result would allow them to do whatever they want, completely unabated. Till then they'll offer breadcrumbs to hold further action at bay. A strong 'Yes' result is the only thing that's gonna return anything for us.![]()
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guardianangel
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Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 17:11To be honest we've been spoiled by very high results and turnouts that are not really that common across most industries.POSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 15:48
What is a strong 'yes' result? 95%? Personally I think it will be 87 to 88% which would definitely not be strong
Anything above an 80% Yes on a 60%+ turnout is actually a strong result.
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guardianangel
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IM VOTING YES !!!!!! we didn't come this far to jack it in,and what cabbage would not vote yes with how they are going to casualise our jobs it makes no sense and who would want a job with those conditions,imagine doing a 44 hour week at xmas and getting paid 37 and no overtime,VOTE YES its our only hope.