We were also shown clear mail centre's with no backlog.......SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 16:24Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stampsmasterblaster wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 15:04Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
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What's happening with mail volumes?
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postieblueshirt
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
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LouBarlow
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
That is because there were clear mail centres with no backlogs. Anyone claiming mail volume isn’t declining is deluded. I think I had about 7 flats today for my entire round. Looking at my frame before delivery it was less than a 50% call rate today.postieblueshirt wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:38We were also shown clear mail centre's with no backlog.......SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 16:24Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stampsmasterblaster wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 15:04Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
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postieblueshirt
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Thats great for your delivery.Yours isnt mine and i had more than you,am i deluded no,do i think mail was stored somewhere other than certain mail centres yes.A lot of mail is 2 or 3 weeks old mail hidden parcels not.But royal mail dont prioritise parcels.LouBarlow wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:53That is because there were clear mail centres with no backlogs. Anyone claiming mail volume isn’t declining is deluded. I think I had about 7 flats today for my entire round. Looking at my frame before delivery it was less than a 50% call rate today.postieblueshirt wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:38We were also shown clear mail centre's with no backlog.......SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 16:24Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stampsmasterblaster wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 15:04Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
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south London postie
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Everyone knows about the strike action, that it's on going with no resolution in sight, that once there's a backlog it's anyone's guess, they see their regular postie has been preplaced by some one-day random - businesses and the public aren't going to trust the service again until all this is over.
They may prefer the post - for now - but they are finding alternatives, and the longer this goes on ...
They may prefer the post - for now - but they are finding alternatives, and the longer this goes on ...
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aiden01
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Honesty cannot believe you think mc's were clear where is it all hidden personally was sorting mail yday from 4th december an mc's no backlog.LouBarlow wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:53That is because there were clear mail centres with no backlogs. Anyone claiming mail volume isn’t declining is deluded. I think I had about 7 flats today for my entire round. Looking at my frame before delivery it was less than a 50% call rate today.postieblueshirt wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:38We were also shown clear mail centre's with no backlog.......SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 16:24Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stampsmasterblaster wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 15:04Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Yes. Where is it all hidden?
I keep hearing this - rumour after rumour. South Wales. M25. Incinerated. They have forgotten where it is.
If it has been hidden somewhere, someone must know.
We have a few cards from mid to late December. Mostly small cards, international cards or cards where the postcode is wrong. That happens every year. No customer has complained to me that their Christmas was ruined.
Nothing to suggest there are warehouses full of mail.
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jessicarabbit
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
When did the truth ever stop people believing a great conspiracy theory. Mail came in odd waves during the last 2 weeks of December different to how we are used to getting it as MCs prioritising different things on different days. Other than that I would suggest that unless you physically have boxes of letters stored under your own frame or in the ladies toilets at work then there is no backlog hidden anywhere.
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aiden01
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Come an have in my mc xmas believerd nexr yearjessicarabbit wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 22:49When did the truth ever stop people believing a great conspiracy theory. Mail came in odd waves during the last 2 weeks of December different to how we are used to getting it as MCs prioritising different things on different days. Other than that I would suggest that unless you physically have boxes of letters stored under your own frame or in the ladies toilets at work then there is no backlog hidden anywhere.
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Halfhappy
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Aiden thats one hell of a word salad, I still love ya, tho.aiden01 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 23:17Come an have in my mc xmas believerd nexr yearjessicarabbit wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 22:49When did the truth ever stop people believing a great conspiracy theory. Mail came in odd waves during the last 2 weeks of December different to how we are used to getting it as MCs prioritising different things on different days. Other than that I would suggest that unless you physically have boxes of letters stored under your own frame or in the ladies toilets at work then there is no backlog hidden anywhere.
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Minischoles
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Except I spent all of Christmas week dealing with customers who posted tracked items on the 7th and 8th December that weren't processed until the 22nd and 23rd December; there are application forms for Royal Mail services submitted on similar dates that weren't received to be processed until the 29th and 30th December.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 22:35Yes. Where is it all hidden?
I keep hearing this - rumour after rumour. South Wales. M25. Incinerated. They have forgotten where it is.
If it has been hidden somewhere, someone must know.
We have a few cards from mid to late December. Mostly small cards, international cards or cards where the postcode is wrong. That happens every year. No customer has complained to me that their Christmas was ruined.
Nothing to suggest there are warehouses full of mail.
So one of two things happened
1 - Royal Mail processed over two weeks of mail, during the busiest period of the year, with 4 days of IA in that period for the MCs and DOs to be clear and for there to be no backlog
2 - There was 14-16 days of mail hidden somewhere
The tracking numbers exist showing items picked up early December not even being given an initial scan into an MC until literally the day before Christmas, not just single items but item after item after item.
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LouBarlow
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
I deliberately didn’t say *all* MCs were clear, but the ones with backlogs were in the minority. Ours cleared every day.aiden01 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 22:14Honesty cannot believe you think mc's were clear where is it all hidden personally was sorting mail yday from 4th december an mc's no backlog.LouBarlow wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:53That is because there were clear mail centres with no backlogs. Anyone claiming mail volume isn’t declining is deluded. I think I had about 7 flats today for my entire round. Looking at my frame before delivery it was less than a 50% call rate today.postieblueshirt wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:38We were also shown clear mail centre's with no backlog.......SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 16:24Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stampsmasterblaster wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 15:04Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
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demon
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 16:24Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stampsmasterblaster wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 15:04Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
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walthmstowman
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Royal Mail are always crying about how they are losing money but yesterday in my mate's MC they had casual staff folding mail bags on £20 per hour . Yet another example of being lead by a tinpot management .
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enskied
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
Still recieving second class from the beginning of December the 2nd being the earliest, Christmas cards aplenty mostly unranked or with a suspiciously blurred franking impossible to make out, quite a few done in Sheffield.
Anyway brought back 12 bags of mail today all to be thrown back in again tomorrow, packets and some failed tracked.
Its the same across entire office.
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redlen
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?
walthmstowman wrote: ↑09 Jan 2023, 12:10Royal Mail are always crying about how they are losing money but yesterday in my mate's MC they had casual staff folding mail bags on £20 per hour . Yet another example of being lead by a tinpot management .
Yet another mate down the pub comment attacking Angard Staff??
The reality being the amount of Angard staff required on any day or night depends on advance traffic forecast on what is coming into the mail centre to be processed that night for delivery. Angard staff are the bare minimum and never stop in bull rings, etc. The last few weeks they have been on the manual letters all night clearing all the Christmas cards rejected from the machines.