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Re: Pay rise

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clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:55
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 07:23
Everyone's heard the stories of the hundreds of pounds lost in delivery when the per item payments was sold out and became the delivery supplement.
The D2D market is shrinking. Locally we probably average 2/week.
We are earning more with a delivery supplement than we would have if we had retained unit payments.

Hundreds of pounds lost in delivery? Nonsense.
Nice selective quotation there. And yes postal workers lost hundreds of pounds.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:55
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 07:23
Everyone's heard the stories of the hundreds of pounds lost in delivery when the per item payments was sold out and became the delivery supplement.
The D2D market is shrinking. Locally we probably average 2/week.
We are earning more with a delivery supplement than we would have if we had retained unit payments.

Hundreds of pounds lost in delivery? Nonsense.
At the end of the day it ain't nonsense, I could earn over £100 a week after tax over 15 years ago some weeks, just off households on my walk. You know what that meant at the time? Luxury for the family that week, what do we have now as OPGs that makes you so defensive?
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Londonsburning wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:00

At the end of the day it ain't nonsense, I could earn over £100 a week after tax over 15 years ago some weeks, just off households on my walk. You know what that meant at the time? Luxury for the family that week, what do we have now as OPGs that makes you so defensive?
I suspect anyone who has worked in delivery for more than 15 years will recognise that as bullshit.
A maximum of 3 D2D off a much smaller round earning over £100/week?
Liar liar your pants are on fire.
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He wont have been far off, used to be roughly £10 per d2d, some weeks got 7/8, used to save them up and cash them in to use as holiday spends or help for xmas when kids came along
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Re: Pay rise

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clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:34
Londonsburning wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:00

At the end of the day it ain't nonsense, I could earn over £100 a week after tax over 15 years ago some weeks, just off households on my walk. You know what that meant at the time? Luxury for the family that week, what do we have now as OPGs that makes you so defensive?
I suspect anyone who has worked in delivery for more than 15 years will recognise that as bullshit.
A maximum of 3 D2D off a much smaller round earning over £100/week?
Liar liar your pants are on fire.
Lol get your facts right. Used to regularly get 5/6/7 sets on an 850+ duty back in the day
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Londonsburning wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:49

Lol get your facts right. Used to regularly get 5/6/7 sets on an 850+ duty back in the day
This is from the BT2010 agreement:
To coincide with the introduction of the national agreement unit payments will cease and
the 3 items per week cap will be removed. D2D Monies will be turned into a delivery
supplement paid 52 weeks a year for all delivery employees (OPG and ORR) pro rata for
part time employees.


So either you were getting paid per item in which case the cap of 3 contracts was still in place, or you were doing 5/6/7 and the payment per item had ceased. You can't have it both ways.
As I said earlier:
Liar liar your pants are on fire.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:17
Londonsburning wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:49

Lol get your facts right. Used to regularly get 5/6/7 sets on an 850+ duty back in the day
This is from the BT2010 agreement:
To coincide with the introduction of the national agreement unit payments will cease and
the 3 items per week cap will be removed. D2D Monies will be turned into a delivery
supplement paid 52 weeks a year for all delivery employees (OPG and ORR) pro rata for
part time employees.


So either you were getting paid per item in which case the cap of 3 contracts was still in place, or you were doing 5/6/7 and the payment per item had ceased. You can't have it both ways.
As I said earlier:
Liar liar your pants are on fire.

Used to be a maximum of 6 households per week.
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Re: Pay rise

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sweepster70 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 22:06

Used to be a maximum of 6 households per week.
When?
So how come the passage from the BT2010 agreement I have quoted states 3?
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sweepster70 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 22:06
clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:17
Londonsburning wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:49

Lol get your facts right. Used to regularly get 5/6/7 sets on an 850+ duty back in the day
This is from the BT2010 agreement:
To coincide with the introduction of the national agreement unit payments will cease and
the 3 items per week cap will be removed. D2D Monies will be turned into a delivery
supplement paid 52 weeks a year for all delivery employees (OPG and ORR) pro rata for
part time employees.


So either you were getting paid per item in which case the cap of 3 contracts was still in place, or you were doing 5/6/7 and the payment per item had ceased. You can't have it both ways.
As I said earlier:
Liar liar your pants are on fire.

Used to be a maximum of 6 households per week.
It didn't it was 3 as quoted above, one of the reasons for the change was that RM were having to turn business down as they were limited to 3 per week.
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Re: Pay rise

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clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:34
Londonsburning wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:00

At the end of the day it ain't nonsense, I could earn over £100 a week after tax over 15 years ago some weeks, just off households on my walk. You know what that meant at the time? Luxury for the family that week, what do we have now as OPGs that makes you so defensive?
I suspect anyone who has worked in delivery for more than 15 years will recognise that as bullshit.
A maximum of 3 D2D off a much smaller round earning over £100/week?
Liar liar your pants are on fire.
20 years ago, on the many 700-850 call duties at my DO, and there were many at the time, we made over £100 per week on households alone, with the payment between 1.5p and 3p per leaflet if I remember correctly. The equivalent of almost £200 extra per week in todays economy I might add.
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Re: Pay rise

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Londonsburning wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 15:45

20 years ago, on the many 700-850 call duties at my DO, and there were many at the time, we made over £100 per week on households alone, with the payment between 1.5p and 3p per leaflet if I remember correctly. The equivalent of almost £200 extra per week in todays economy I might add.
Give it up sunshine.
You claimed you were doing 5/6/7 D2D per week and getting paid for them.
I have shown you that either you were doing a max of 3 and getting paid per item or you were doing 5/6/7 and not getting paid per item.
You have been outed for being a lying little s**t so stop embarrassing yourself. You are pathetic.
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Re: Pay rise

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clashcityrocker wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 16:16
Londonsburning wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 15:45

20 years ago, on the many 700-850 call duties at my DO, and there were many at the time, we made over £100 per week on households alone, with the payment between 1.5p and 3p per leaflet if I remember correctly. The equivalent of almost £200 extra per week in todays economy I might add.
Give it up sunshine.
You claimed you were doing 5/6/7 D2D per week and getting paid for them.
I have shown you that either you were doing a max of 3 and getting paid per item or you were doing 5/6/7 and not getting paid per item.
You have been outed for being a lying little s**t so stop embarrassing yourself. You are pathetic.
I'm pathetic, many many apologies. Still don't make a difference to me earning over £100 per week extra on households 15 years ago :thumbup
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Re: Pay rise

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20 years ago it was 2005, a couple of years after single day delivery (SDD).
Nowhere, in the entire Royal Mail universe was any dude or dudette having 5-6-7 D2D's on one round worth 100 Bucks a week.
Not even in the smoke, where our streets are paved with gold.

Both parties are also committed to reviewing the future arrangements for Door-to-Door. However, given the scale of
change already in the move to single deliveries, it has been agreed that the existing Door-to-Door arrangements will continue
for the time being. A review of Door-to-Door will be carried out during 2004 to establish whether the existing arrangements
should be revised following the deployment of single deliveries.


The so called 2004 review, did not materialise.
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Re: Pay rise

Post by Pidleypoo »

There was a limit of 3 per week which only went when we stopped getting paid per item.

The only exception I can remember was election material and when the European elections were on you could’ve had 10 ish.

But as for normal d2d’s it was 3 max.
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Re: Pay rise

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The only people who used to earn £100 per week from households were those who used to do other peoples in their own time. I seem to remember payment was about 1.6p per item for a normal sized household so 3 lots a week on a 500 call duty would earn you about £24.