ExactlyA2B wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 18:45It won't balance out as the summer is in next years allocation, RM should not be taking hours away from 22/23 holiday allowancepieoftheday wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 18:05Dosnt it balance out? A week off in this period uses 39 hrs but a week in summer will use 35 hrs etc,you still get your full allocation. I'm not sure what's going on with the reduction of leave on the app thoughfunkflex55 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 16:16So the holidays that I didn't choose to have but were allocated in autumn months now cost more of my entitlement. What a load of bollocks.heraldmoth wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 10:25Be aware also if u notice on the app, any winter leave, you will now b docked the extra 2 hours per week![]()
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heraldmoth
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Dexydog
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RoyRace14 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:48You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not rightDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:40Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
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heraldmoth
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I’ve emailed HR although I’d be better with an F.O.I. as for the union what do they really know, they never delved into the nitty grittyDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 20:30RoyRace14 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:48You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not rightDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:40Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
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Dexydog
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Re: 24 minutes
Nice one.
Keep us posted on progress.
Keep us posted on progress.
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yellowbelly
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FOI requests are not applicable to private companies.heraldmoth wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 20:36I’ve emailed HR although I’d be better with an F.O.I. as for the union what do they really know, they never delved into the nitty grittyDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 20:30RoyRace14 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:48You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not rightDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:40Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
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Shadedpostie
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Re: 24 minutes
Anyone know what happens when say a PT is asked to double prep in the mornings now on overtime? Is the 24 minutes extra paid as normal or what?
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TopperGas
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Unlikely as a PT you are now due to work 10 mins OT daily so, at best, you'll get 15 mins extra OT.Shadedpostie wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 17:51Anyone know what happens when say a PT is asked to double prep in the mornings now on overtime? Is the 24 minutes extra paid as normal or what?
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clashcityrocker
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Which bizarrely would mean they are being paid more than a full timer for the same days work.TopperGas wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 18:13Unlikely as a PT you are now due to work 10 mins OT daily so, at best, you'll get 15 mins extra OT.Shadedpostie wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 17:51Anyone know what happens when say a PT is asked to double prep in the mornings now on overtime? Is the 24 minutes extra paid as normal or what?
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heraldmoth
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Sorry, I meant in terms of getting a straight answer it’s akin to filling out an F.O.I.yellowbelly wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 17:43FOI requests are not applicable to private companies.heraldmoth wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 20:36I’ve emailed HR although I’d be better with an F.O.I. as for the union what do they really know, they never delved into the nitty grittyDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 20:30RoyRace14 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:48You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not rightDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:40Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
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yellowbelly
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Aaah right, agree with your sentiment though.heraldmoth wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 18:43
Sorry, I meant in terms of getting a straight answer it’s akin to filling out an F.O.I.
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heraldmoth
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Can only apologise for the confusionyellowbelly wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 19:18Aaah right, agree with your sentiment though.heraldmoth wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 18:43
Sorry, I meant in terms of getting a straight answer it’s akin to filling out an F.O.I.![]()
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pieoftheday
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Everybody OUT!! Mebe not eh....Dexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 20:30RoyRace14 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:48You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not rightDexydog wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 19:40Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
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claretandblue
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Some of the usual suspects in our office have found innovative ways to get out of it.
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heraldmoth
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The deduction is due to the seasonal hours work pattern that’s been assigned to your record. I can assure you that you will not miss out on any annual leave hours.
We will make sure that all pre-booked leave is honoured and have processes in place to support this, managers do not need to do anything. And employees will be able to take their full entitlement, e.g. if an employee has 6 weeks of entitlement, they will be able to take 6 weeks.
Annual leave is always deducted according to the work schedule an employee is on in the week in which they take it, so any booked during 'high' season will be using more annual leave, as they're taking more time off work. But again, we have put processes in place for 2023-24, because of there being no 'low' season to balance out the 'high' and with most annual leave already being booked when seasonal went live, to ensure employees get their full entitlement and that pre-booked leave is honoured, as per the agreement.
What I received from HR
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A2B
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Pre-booked is the key, I expect the reduction in my unbooked allocation to be reversed once we go back to normal hours