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Strong bull
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by Strong bull »

Won't the current strike ballott be expired by then aswell?
derricksmyth
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by derricksmyth »

This is a disgraceful way to treat the membership. This could all be done by the middle of May. Definitely No from me!!
thefox
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worktotime wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 17:50
talk about dragging it out :arrrghhh , maybe they will think that everybody might calm down by then and see a different side to the agreement , :left:
That is exactly what they think will happen,let them calm down a bit gives us time to feed them our propaganda
Rumple
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by Rumple »

Dave Ward and crew, we’ve seen your negotiated agreement. Why can we not have the ballot papers now?
Do you not think we are grown ups? Do you think we need spoon feeding your reasons for offering us a stench of an agreement. Do you not think this has gone on long enough?
Let us vote now, we don’t want any spin or propaganda.
If this agreement is the best you can get for the Members then your the wrong people to be leading this Union.
18 days of strike action for what?
dakka86
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by dakka86 »

7th of June are they serious are they using carrier pigeons
KilledOff
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by KilledOff »

norm wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 17:49
Coincidence much, the ballot papers arrive the same day Royal Mail announce their end of year finances to the stock market.

Hint, it's going to be bad, £400m losses.

The union looking to try and profit off of the fear mongering.

The level of manipulation at work is amazing.
Absolutely! :Applause

They hired RM's legal team for advice on how to screw us over now too?
ReturnToSenderrr
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by ReturnToSenderrr »

norm wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 17:49
Coincidence much, the ballot papers arrive the same day Royal Mail announce their end of year finances to the stock market.

Hint, it's going to be bad, £400m losses.

The union looking to try and profit off of the fear mongering.

The level of manipulation at work is amazing.
Earnings date is the 18th May, the day after ballot papers are posted. I suspect something to persuade members will be announced on the 18th May.
toonshola
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by toonshola »

So transparent what they are doing it’s unreal. Probably be a joint statement from Ward and Thompson in our ballot begging for a yes vote. Drag it all out in the hope we are ground down and vote this shambles through. Well for what it’s worth I won’t be swayed, I’ve read the full agreement 3 times and it’s no from me. Their Facebook live North Korea propaganda sessions don’t wash with me. F*ck Ward and the PEC.
fonic
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by fonic »

You can send mine out tomorrow CWU, throwing the frontline under the bus, sweatshop environment and crippling sized duties. I hope all you guys at the top of the cwu lose your position at the very least, you certainly don't deserve the gargantuan salary. how do I opt out of the upcoming propaganda.
yellowbelly
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by yellowbelly »

dakka86 wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 18:31
7th of June are they serious are they using carrier pigeons
Sputters wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 17:26
So it now drags on for another 2 months .
Talk about milking it . :sad:
rambo1 wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 17:53
7th of friggin June!!!! Jeez how long do they think it takes to make up our minds. The CWU is an absolute waste of space. They're just trying to eek out more subs for another month.
I suppose like any other ballot of the membership CWU have got to ensure all their records of members details etc. have
got to be up to date for the vote to be valid. Also from the post I've been delivering this week I think that there are
other ballots happening for an education union and a health service union so if they're all being conducted
by the same independent balloting organisation they could be a bit busy!
Shadedpostie
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I'll be telling them to get f****d if they want to do gate meetings
world class male
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by world class male »

Strong bull wrote:
26 Apr 2023, 18:17
Won't the current strike ballott be expired by then aswell?
also will their be enough cwu members to pass the threshold for any new ballot?
what if 60k members joined unite this week, thus null and voiding the cwu's shameless act,
i just cannot believe it will take almost 2 months on the idiots agreeing a deal to get the no result of it's members
wtf does our subs go on?
claystones
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by claystones »

No need to send the ballot papers out i think we all know what the result will be A big fat NO over to you cwu
richj2009
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by richj2009 »

Sorry come again 7th of June??? This is amazing. What the hell is going on here? Wow. Incredible.
redlen
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Re: ballot timetable

Post by redlen »

Not my view/copied.

There has been a deathly hush from Senior CWU executive members since a negotiators deal was agreed. Initially the best deal in the world and then Stony silence.

Now we are told the ballot won't be until 17th May until 7th June ... a huge delay but fully planned. This is a clear strategy from the CWU and RM to get the vote to be yes .

Why is this?

Initially just delay things, initial anger dissipates and people calm down

Then RM will announce full year results (May 20th last year) just as the ballot starts, they will be awful and the strikes will be blamed. There will be a huge emphasis on change is needed to make us competitive and massive leverage on accepting the deal to move forward.

The ballot to strike will be running out and a no vote will need a new ballot...

The CWU will continue throughout to tell us this is the best deal they could get.
We will be assured that 4.30 last letter will never apply in your office... but no specific time will be given.
The CWU will continue to receive the 15m (annual) subs that postal workers pay them along with the RM subsidies to CWU salaries...

Is it a good deal?
No

So the only argument can be "Is it the best deal we can get"

If it is and it includes seasonal adjustments, a low pay offer with negligible back pay, (its OK we just have to accept we are worse off) , and last post at 4.30 (dark, no SA's ) ..(apparently this won't happen in our office ... but they can make it happen as its in tha agreement)

Lots of other bits

Then you have to accept the CWU set the bar low.

Add in redelivering 739's , Collections, Tracked at frame, Revisions ...changes happening regardless of the CWU and bound to be hugely worse at Xmas

Natonal Executive can agree , we possibly need a new senior team.
Just a thought.