Royal Mail brief to managers : New ways of working in delivery, processing and distribution

blacov · Post by **blacov** » 24 Mar 2020, 06:11

claretandblue wrote:So we are expected to have 1 man 1 van but Ambulances still have 2 people in them ?

They are most likely issued with a proper protective gear that actually works. Still a decent point although I wouldnt compare us to them.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 24 Mar 2020, 06:24

Jahpostie wrote:Surely they just hire extra vans. Simples. Oh I forgot it's Royal Mail. (I know some don't drive but seems to me the best solution)

By the end of this week there won't be enough staff to fill the vans we've got.

realitybites · Post by **realitybites** » 24 Mar 2020, 06:52

miles_peters wrote:i hope every postal worker across the entire country is geared up to refuse to work today if the conditions are not safe. think of your own life and the lives of your loved ones.

i for one do not want to end up on ventilator, gasping for breath and dying alone in an isolation unit.

be strong.

What ventilator? Come to that, what bed? The situation gets worse as it goes on and there will be no resources for us.

Post by **iainwilson** » 24 Mar 2020, 06:54

Just got into work at Parcelforce Rotherham. When asked for gloves was told there aren’t anyp

Post by **iainwilson** » 24 Mar 2020, 06:55

And union rep off sick

Post by **rambo1** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:04

ripio wrote:Regular hand washing throughout the day, impossible, so the whole thing is a non starter.

A bit like one per van. How the hell is this going to be stuck to when there's van shares 8 miles from the office and barley enough vans to go round as it is. It's totally impossible and if enforced the place will close. Should have stuck to bikes.

Post by **rambo1** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:07

Jahpostie wrote:Surely they just hire extra vans. Simples. Oh I forgot it's Royal Mail. (I know some don't drive but seems to me the best solution)

Our office car park is full. Where (even if you could get them) are they gonna park another 30-40 vans.

viking1488 · Post by **viking1488** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:10

iainwilson wrote:Just got into work at Parcelforce Rotherham. When asked for gloves was told there aren’t anyp

you should not be working parcelforce and royal mail staff on the front line need to stick together until rm do something they are putting are lives and health at risk

TheGoodRebel111 · Post by **TheGoodRebel111** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:25

I can't wait to see how they (mis)manage this in the morning. Speaking as a driver who regularly shares with a non-driver.

norris9 · Post by **norris9** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:32

Lets get some clarity here....

Postmen/Women:

-If you are old and vulnerable - stay at home, you are fine to do so.

-If you have vulnerable people you live with - stay at home.

-If you are healthy and the people you live with are healthy then you should still work. Guess what - you will likely still need to go to a rammed supermarket at some point or will go out your house to do exercise and interact with people.

-If you want hand sanitiser/hand wash/soap or gloves - go and buy some, don't expect Royal Mail to provide you.

Managers:

-Make sure people are kept at 2 or 3 metres distance and tell Posties to keep that distance.

-Arrange to drop post out to posties. Rent out extra vans. Ask those that are on annual leave if they could come into work to help. Employ agency staff.

It's not that difficult. Though likely every depot will have a backlog as Posties stay at home and the logistics of 1 man vans isn't going to be efficient.

Most of these posties complaining 'Muh life!!!!!' won't have bought any hand wash or gloves over the past weeks and will go into work today and stand right next to people without a care in the world. I guarantee it.

Gasman11 · Post by **Gasman11** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:33

How do you regularly wash your hands whilst out on duty if you're a hct user or out by yourself using a lwt while bags are being dropped off to you or you're a non driver etc??

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 24 Mar 2020, 07:48

norris9 wrote:
-If you want hand sanitiser/hand wash/soap or gloves - go and buy some, don't expect Royal Mail to provide you.

LOL, have you seen any in the shops recently.......???????

SirCrim · Post by **SirCrim** » 24 Mar 2020, 08:29

Wherever possible is not good enough! It's essential. It's also impossible to wash your hands throughout the day when out on delivery.

Either way these are the sorts of things that should have been implemented over a week ago. It's literally the bare minimum they can get away with now and I hope people will take the health of themselves and their families into their own hands following this statement.

themailman · Post by **themailman** » 24 Mar 2020, 08:36

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 24 Mar 2020, 08:41

themailman wrote:I posted on another thread that full time drivers are going to get absolutely shafted in all of this.
Having to do all the prep (not a big deal usually), but load the van also, drive to partners house and let them take 7 hours worth of delivery out the van - that's the issue there - you think full time non drivers will want to walk the streets for their whole shift? No of course not, so it will fall back on the driver.

Would anyone want half a van load of potentially contaminated bags of mail/parcels in their homes. Can't see that working or having the drivers spend 8 hours working outside. Totally wrong.