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Why you should support the agreement

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2yearpostie
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by 2yearpostie »

maisymoo04 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 10:19
BIG FAT NO FROM ME :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown done f all to help us over xmas pressure scraping on vans etc take tracked out big heavy ppe boxes my backs FOOKED now :thumbdown but as we no it will fly in disgusting deal never been about pay as mentioned its how we get treated . dont get me wrong i like the job been doing it for years but come on smell the coffee people :cuppa VOTE NO
So youve had to deliver parcels, when your paid to deliver, ermm parcels?
yellowbelly
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by yellowbelly »

2yearpostie wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:55
toonshola wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:16
maisymoo04 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 10:19
BIG FAT NO FROM ME :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown done f all to help us over xmas pressure scraping on vans etc take tracked out big heavy ppe boxes my backs FOOKED now :thumbdown but as we no it will fly in disgusting deal never been about pay as mentioned its how we get treated . dont get me wrong i like the job been doing it for years but come on smell the coffee people :cuppa VOTE NO
I’ll be joining you in voting NO as being a part timer for 11 long years there is nothing I can see in the agreement that gives me hope of being made full time over the next 11 years. Totally neglected by Royal Mail and the union as per usual. Fully expect my vote to make no difference though, this will be voted through by the morons who are blinded by a measly few hundred quid before tax. Those same people will be kicking off with the new duty structures in 6 months time when that money is long gone. Sad state of affairs.
if you wanted full time work why did you apply for a part time job, and whats stopping you from seeking one with another company now?
Because that may have been their only option at the time.....not everybody has the luxury of multiple career paths, you don't know
everybody's personal circumstances.
2yearpostie
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

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yellowbelly wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 15:32
2yearpostie wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:55
toonshola wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:16
maisymoo04 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 10:19
BIG FAT NO FROM ME :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown done f all to help us over xmas pressure scraping on vans etc take tracked out big heavy ppe boxes my backs FOOKED now :thumbdown but as we no it will fly in disgusting deal never been about pay as mentioned its how we get treated . dont get me wrong i like the job been doing it for years but come on smell the coffee people :cuppa VOTE NO
I’ll be joining you in voting NO as being a part timer for 11 long years there is nothing I can see in the agreement that gives me hope of being made full time over the next 11 years. Totally neglected by Royal Mail and the union as per usual. Fully expect my vote to make no difference though, this will be voted through by the morons who are blinded by a measly few hundred quid before tax. Those same people will be kicking off with the new duty structures in 6 months time when that money is long gone. Sad state of affairs.
if you wanted full time work why did you apply for a part time job, and whats stopping you from seeking one with another company now?
Because that may have been their only option at the time.....not everybody has the luxury of multiple career paths, you don't know
everybody's personal circumstances.
Very true but whats stopping part timers who want full time work looking for it elsewhere and why does royal mail have to give full time jobs out if they dont want to?
Mike1259
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by Mike1259 »

P13 wrote:
28 Dec 2020, 21:05
Local solutions to the culture issue, the toxic culture tends to be caused by Local solutions it appears no one wants to actually address the toxic culture. Its a no from me
gb93
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by gb93 »

2.7% backdated to April 2020
Hour off working week
Extra 2.6% pay rise for part timers
Opportunity for overtime working on a sunday
Support the union & vote yes to a very acceptable deal
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
P13
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

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Mike1259 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 16:45
Idiot.
I take it that is aimed at me , if so can you explain why
P13
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

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gb93 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 17:09
2.7% backdated to April 2020
Hour off working week
Extra 2.6% pay rise for part timers
Opportunity for overtime working on a sunday
Support the union & vote yes to a very acceptable deal
What about the 24 points that are still being negotiated are you happy to vote blind on those points
gb93
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by gb93 »

P13 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 17:11
gb93 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 17:09
2.7% backdated to April 2020
Hour off working week
Extra 2.6% pay rise for part timers
Opportunity for overtime working on a sunday
Support the union & vote yes to a very acceptable deal
What about the 24 points that are still being negotiated are you happy to vote blind on those points
Question is why SHOULD you support the agreement.
Not why should you NOT support the agreement.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
P13
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by P13 »

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gb93 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 19:34
P13 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 17:11
gb93 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 17:09
2.7% backdated to April 2020
Hour off working week
Extra 2.6% pay rise for part timers
Opportunity for overtime working on a sunday
Support the union & vote yes to a very acceptable deal
What about the 24 points that are still being negotiated are you happy to vote blind on those points
Question is why SHOULD you support the agreement.
Not why should you NOT support the agreement.
It is not a question , the header actually says why you should support the agreement , it's a personal reason from a senior union official , countered by other members of this board
toonshola
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by toonshola »

2yearpostie wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:55
toonshola wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:16
maisymoo04 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 10:19
BIG FAT NO FROM ME :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown done f all to help us over xmas pressure scraping on vans etc take tracked out big heavy ppe boxes my backs FOOKED now :thumbdown but as we no it will fly in disgusting deal never been about pay as mentioned its how we get treated . dont get me wrong i like the job been doing it for years but come on smell the coffee people :cuppa VOTE NO
I’ll be joining you in voting NO as being a part timer for 11 long years there is nothing I can see in the agreement that gives me hope of being made full time over the next 11 years. Totally neglected by Royal Mail and the union as per usual. Fully expect my vote to make no difference though, this will be voted through by the morons who are blinded by a measly few hundred quid before tax. Those same people will be kicking off with the new duty structures in 6 months time when that money is long gone. Sad state of affairs.
if you wanted full time work why did you apply for a part time job, and whats stopping you from seeking one with another company now?
Was promised at interview would be full time within a couple of years. Regularly work between 37/40 hours a week anyway topping up through overtime to then then only be paid part time wage 5 weeks of the year whilst on annual leave. The constant chasing of missing overtime each week is a real annoyance. Then you have full timers who actually work less than their contract hours get all the benefits of full pay whilst sick/on holiday. It’s wrong and you know it.
RTP
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by RTP »

toonshola wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 20:03
2yearpostie wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:55
toonshola wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 14:16
maisymoo04 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 10:19
BIG FAT NO FROM ME :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown done f all to help us over xmas pressure scraping on vans etc take tracked out big heavy ppe boxes my backs FOOKED now :thumbdown but as we no it will fly in disgusting deal never been about pay as mentioned its how we get treated . dont get me wrong i like the job been doing it for years but come on smell the coffee people :cuppa VOTE NO
I’ll be joining you in voting NO as being a part timer for 11 long years there is nothing I can see in the agreement that gives me hope of being made full time over the next 11 years. Totally neglected by Royal Mail and the union as per usual. Fully expect my vote to make no difference though, this will be voted through by the morons who are blinded by a measly few hundred quid before tax. Those same people will be kicking off with the new duty structures in 6 months time when that money is long gone. Sad state of affairs.
if you wanted full time work why did you apply for a part time job, and whats stopping you from seeking one with another company now?
Was promised at interview would be full time within a couple of years. Regularly work between 37/40 hours a week anyway topping up through overtime to then then only be paid part time wage 5 weeks of the year whilst on annual leave. The constant chasing of missing overtime each week is a real annoyance. Then you have full timers who actually work less than their contract hours get all the benefits of full pay whilst sick/on holiday. It’s wrong and you know it.
There are always those that are on a good one. Gets to us other full timers who work our balls off as well.PDA actuals and revisions might change things and get you up to full time permanent. I feel for you having been there, but voting no leaves you at status quo, so dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. However if your office does show that the hours are there after a revision for you and/or others to increase their hours, then if your rep is worth their salt he/she will not sign off any revision without that quarentee of a permanent change of hours.
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maisymoo04
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by maisymoo04 »

2 year postie you dont no what i do i dont get paid for just delivering parcels ? come back to me when you have some shine on your royal mail trousers or shorts thanks :cuppa :whistle
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
aiden01
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by aiden01 »

Mike1259 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 16:45
Idiot.
Why is he an idiot because you don't like his opinion grow up.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by SpacePhoenix »

I believe that when x number of jobs get made up from part time to full time it goes in seniority order as to who gets made up to full time
aiden01
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Re: Why you should support the agreement

Post by aiden01 »

maisymoo04 wrote:
03 Jan 2021, 22:21
2 year postie you dont no what i do i dont get paid for just delivering parcels ? come back to me when you have some shine on your royal mail trousers or shorts thanks :cuppa :whistle
But you get paid for whatever rm ask you to do within your contacted hours. Surely as someone senior as your spouting have some respect..