change of hours

[woofwoof]

we are told today they are changing our hours by around 30 mins later ,we have a delivery section attached and all hell breaks loose when they try to change them with the interim agreement where do we stand as a mail centre

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Interim agreement says no changes will be imposed until a national agreement is reached. I would suggest your rep starts the IR process.

[woofwoof]

Interim agreement says no changes will be imposed until a national agreement is reached. I would suggest your rep starts the IR process.

there saying they can talk and plan cos its the business plan (i thought these were a no go to)

[Ahebban]

they can talk, talk .. any attempt to impose change breaches the interim agreement .. the status quo remains in place until such time as an agreement is finalised through the ballot box.

The agreement may or may not compromise any office budget plan, so it is pointless in stirring trouble at this stage of proceedings.

[machineman]

Interim agreement says no changes will be imposed until a national agreement is reached. I would suggest your rep starts the IR process.

Can you clarify changes as we heve been informed that we are losing 2 of our imps and getting 6 WSM from the 22 mar and that we will be TOLD what duties we have commencing week 22 mar by the shift manager with duties possibly changing by up to 2 hours this is being done with the involvment of the local union ? is this not covered by the national agreement and should we not get a vote on it first ?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Interim agreement says no changes will be imposed until a national agreement is reached. I would suggest your rep starts the IR process.

Can you clarify changes as we have been informed that we are losing 2 of our imps and getting 6 WSM from the 22 mar and that we will be TOLD what duties we have commencing week 22 mar by the shift manager with duties possibly changing by up to 2 hours this is being done with the involvement of the local union ? is this not covered by the national agreement and should we not get a vote on it first ?

Hopefully a Processing rep will be along to answer this as its sounds quite technical and beyond my limited experience.

In my opinion I would think that as its related to Walk Sequencing which forms part of the new deal in deliveries, then any changes would be subject to review when and if the deal is accepted.

From one viewpoint I don't think it would be possible to vote out the machines themselves as they are coming regardless .

However I think you should get a vote on whether or not to accept the changes if they do not allow CWU involvement (although it sounds like they might have this), or if the unit as a whole will accept an imposed revision, or perhaps elect for a repick of duties.

Also IMHO the reps should give you a choice as to whether or not to accept the change in duty times or try to attempt to mitigate or reverse their impact.

[hubbahubba]

Interim agreement says no changes will be imposed until a national agreement is reached. I would suggest your rep starts the IR process.

Can you clarify changes as we heve been informed that we are losing 2 of our imps and getting 6 WSM from the 22 mar and that we will be TOLD what duties we have commencing week 22 mar by the shift manager with duties possibly changing by up to 2 hours this is being done with the involvment of the local union ? is this not covered by the national agreement and should we not get a vote on it first ?

similar sort of things happening at our MC,getting rid of 3 LSMs and getting 8 CSS (WSM).Myself and quite a few others over the 3 shifts have LSM duties,and are being expected to go from our LSM duties to CSS duties,BUT a lot of us are not interested in this!(even the local rep has agreed this,without consulting the people involed!!!).I thought that under the way forward,we would have a resign,and retain our TPM money,as the duties have ceased to exist because of RM,not us signing out of them?Anyone got any thoughts/ideas on this?

[Badwolf]

IF we have a signing of dutys and you sign out of the mech you won't get TPM. But IF we don't have a signing you keep your TPM money for 3 years but could end up working anywhere. Hope this helps Hubba

[hubbahubba]

IF we have a signing of dutys and you sign out of the mech you won't get TPM. But IF we don't have a signing you keep your TPM money for 3 years but could end up working anywhere. Hope this helps Hubba

as i thought mate