Please find attached letters from UNITE to members and reps.
You will note that the members one informs managers
Whilst Unite CMA members are not in dispute with Royal Mail, we should respect the right of CWU members to enter into dispute and take no actions that could transgress upon their dispute
Nice to see they've really taken that seriously!
Branches may wish to send the names of any managers acting outside the guidlines to the DGS (P) department.
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CMA House
Ruscombe Business Park
Twyford
Reading
RG10 9JD
Tel: 0118 934 2300
Fax: 0118 934 2087
AMICUS SECTION
15 October 2009
Regional Secretaries
Dear Colleague
CWU Dispute
You will be aware that the CWU have announced that they are in dispute with Royal Mail and that this may result in strike action being undertaken by CWU members.
I can advise you that at this stage, our members are not in dispute with Royal Mail. We wrote to our members on the 3 September 2009 on the matter (copy attached). Clearly, as our members are not in dispute with Royal Mail then we are required to advise those members to work as normal.
We have also advised our members to respect the right of CWU members to enter into dispute and to take no actions that could transgress upon their dispute.
Also attached is a copy of the advice that the CWU give to their members who are not involved in a dispute.
Regretfully, there appear to be some elements that seek to deflect from the issues and to promote a dispute between Unite and the CWU by making various unsubstantiated allegations against our members.
We have a very good working relationship with the CWU at national level and there is a clear line of communication open between Dave Ward, CWU Deputy General Secretary and myself.
We have agreed that we will jointly investigate any allegations that could be substantiated.
To date, the CWU at national level, have raised no complaints against any of our members.
We can anticipate that Branches, Regional Committees, Regional Officers etc may receive model resolutions from various sources accusing Unite members of undermining the CWU dispute.
In such cases my advice is to refer any CWU member or representative to Dave Ward who, if he believes that there is a genuine issue of concern, may then raise the issue with me directly and we will jointly seek to resolve that issue.
We can anticipate that unless a quick resolution to the dispute is found, then it could result in a long drawn out and damaging one. We know that Royal Mail has already put into place contingency plans that include the opening up of alternative mail depots and are employing hundreds of casual staff on four month contracts.
Although Unite are not directly involved in this dispute, we stand ready to play our part in assisting both the CWU and Royal Mail to come to a speedy resolution to their present difficulties.
I trust that this will assist you.
Best wishes
Yours sincerely
Paul Reuter
National Officer
Copy: Derek Simpson, JGS
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
Thanks for that. Some useful information there for possible future use :-)
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
At the end of the day these so called union memebers of the cma should stand up and be counted cos it is their jobs as wel
HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE ! ! !
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thehappyones
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
TOTAL SHITE........I can only speak for us here in scotland but we know who the scab managers are that are doing the scabbing same faces time and time again
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
thehappyones wrote:TOTAL SHITE........I can only speak for us here in scotland but we know who the scab managers are that are doing the scabbing same faces time and time again
Yep, edinburgh mail centre has loads of the scabbing barstewards
as they s**t on us we will remember them when " Their " union calls them out once it grows a set of balls & stands up to the royal fail like the cwu, what goes around comes around !!!
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Sadly I think this will never happen. RM will keep the CMA and their members sweet with pensionable bonuses and the like as usual.farin wrote:thehappyones wrote:TOTAL SHITE........I can only speak for us here in scotland but we know who the scab managers are that are doing the scabbing same faces time and time again
Yep, edinburgh mail centre has loads of the scabbing barstewardsespecially doing the driving....
as they s**t on us we will remember them when " Their " union calls them out once it grows a set of balls & stands up to the royal fail like the cwu, what goes around comes around !!!
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
Kind of a white lie,didn't the London boys go to their HQ with a demo.To date, the CWU at national level, have raised no complaints against any of our members.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
Yes we met with Simpson and Ryter and we know Billy and Dave have spoken to them too. Plus the most disturbing thing is how Ryter tried to justify his members doing our work! He said it is normal for managers to take walks out and drive vans normally.
However if we are honest as much as I can have a go at them , some of our members have let us down by doing our work whilst we have been out on strike, which is even more shameful and unexpected.
However if we are honest as much as I can have a go at them , some of our members have let us down by doing our work whilst we have been out on strike, which is even more shameful and unexpected.
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Yep you're right guys when the managers drive the out to west lothian its the same scabby cvnts smiling as they drive thrufarin wrote:thehappyones wrote:TOTAL SHITE........I can only speak for us here in scotland but we know who the scab managers are that are doing the scabbing same faces time and time again
Yep, edinburgh mail centre has loads of the scabbing barstewardsespecially doing the driving....
as they s**t on us we will remember them when " Their " union calls them out once it grows a set of balls & stands up to the royal fail like the cwu, what goes around comes around !!!
if they ever go on strike (i know its a long shot ) I would gladly dance thru their picket line
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Re: Unite/CMA Letter
How would you know they were on strike? The lazy turds hardly move all day as it is!dudleylicious wrote:if they ever go on strike (i know its a long shot ) I would gladly dance thru their picket line
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."