Royal Mail appeals to regulator on TNT venture

[Brain Fury]

Sorry MR fury but you know not who I know or how far up the gravy train they are so go back to your toadstool and be Fury-ious by your self

You needed help to come up with "Royal Fail"?

[Lincox]

TNT are using bicycles because they know that they have been successfully trialled over many years, are cost effective, green, and pose little threat to future sickness and physical damage claims. They are also quicker than any of the methods Royal Mail in conjunction with CWU have imposed.

They're using bikes because they're only delivering letters!

And do you think that will always be the case?

The way their security works is they don't give a dam! A chained bicycle unattended is ok as the way TNT POST works we would be sacked for that!

Bicycles are no bigger a risk than trolleys in terms of mail protection. If you leave either out of your line of sight they can be snatched.

[clashcityrocker]

Bicycles are no bigger a risk than trolleys in terms of mail protection. If you leave either out of your line of sight they can be snatched.

To a determined thief with a planned operation, nothing is really a deterrent.
To an opportunist thief, the open panniers on a TNT bicycle are an easier target than a locked HCT.

[Lincox]

But no different to the open bags on LWTs which there are many more than HCTs.

[clashcityrocker]

But no different to the open bags on LWTs which there are many more than HCTs.

The TNT bikes with mail are left unattended.
The LWT should never be left unattended out of sight, and the bags should be closed.

[dvbuk55]

Forsooth mr Fury speaketh with a royal fail voice

Royal Fail? ho, ho - did you think that up all on your own? I know you're probably not used to listening to people that know what they're talking about but honestly you should try it some time

Which would that be Bri, talking about something he knows about or listening to you?

[martin the green]

remember many years ago delivering letters, packets and parcels on a village duty. sometimes could not see over the top of the pile

[Patrick301]

well when downstream access first started it was only a york or 2 a day coming into mailcentres
now every morning there is tnt , uk mail dhl etc trailers queueing up down the road waiting to come in
it escalated dramatically in a short time
tnt delivering mail has started the same and will go the same way

[Lincox]

Glad you said SHOULD Clash. No doubt TNT have their rules regarding security, but you know as well as I do that rules are broken every day, by every postman/woman whether it be Royal Mail or TNT. The job is impossible if you carry it out to the ultimate letter (no pun) of the law/rules.

[Brain Fury]

Forsooth mr Fury speaketh with a royal fail voice

Royal Fail? ho, ho - did you think that up all on your own? I know you're probably not used to listening to people that know what they're talking about but honestly you should try it some time

Which would that be Bri, talking about something he knows about or listening to you?

He's obviously not doing either