It may surprise some I hope Labour is not dead but to come to its sense in their choice of leader, we need an effective opposition to counter balance the Conservatives, if they vote Corbyn as leader, I don't think that will be the case.Tman wrote:Whoever said that political debate was dead?halfull wrote:labour are finished & its for the better of the whole country.
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missed an off their halfull.halfull wrote:labour are finished & its for the better of the whole country.
Labour are finished & its for the better off of the whole country.
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An effective Opposition has to oppose. New Labour have not done that for ages.NWpostie wrote:It may surprise some I hope Labour is not dead but to come to its sense in their choice of leader, we need an effective opposition to counter balance the Conservatives, if they vote Corbyn as leader, I don't think that will be the case.Tman wrote:Whoever said that political debate was dead?halfull wrote:labour are finished & its for the better of the whole country.
How do you counterbalance the conservatives when 3 of the candidates support or don't actively oppose Tory policies. Austerity lite and abstaining in the Welfare vote, that was lowest point in New Labour Project.
Also how do people equate Corbyn being unelectable when the Majority of the public support his Re-Nationalisation policy, and even Economsists say his polices are credible, and in his own constituency he has never been re-elected on less than, or close to 50% . As for printing money to help the poorer off in economy, why is it being slated when the conservatives did it for business and banks they called it Quantative easing, so whats the difference.
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Do you have any evidence of public support and economist support his economic policies ? if so i would like to read up on this providing its from an unbiased source. the public may support renationalisation ( its probably subjective depending on how you ask the question if such a survey has been done) I am pretty sure they don't support his questionable associations with terrorists or his plans for defence. I am not privy to the minds of the Bank of England decision to enact quantitative easing, from what I understand it was to ensure there is money in the cash machines and branches to pay out, as all the money held in bank accounts are not immediately realisable in notes, most of it is paid in electronic form, if everybody drew out their entire saving from bank accounts, there wouldn't be enough notes printed to pay it.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:NWpostie wrote:
Also how do people equate Corbyn being unelectable when the Majority of the public support his Re-Nationalisation policy, and even Economsists say his polices are credible, and in his own constituency he has never been re-elected on less than, or close to 50% . As for printing money to help the poorer off in economy, why is it being slated when the conservatives did it for business and banks they called it Quantative easing, so whats the difference.
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You're taking this vote too seriously. Vote Corbyn ALL THE WAY. We all know ,and so does he, that he will never be PM. This is not the point. It's time for a REAL opposition not Tory light. Get rid of the old 'New Labour' forever. Time to speak up for the majority.NWpostie wrote:If Corbyn gets in, he will make labour unelectable, we have been there before, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ki ... tion,_1983" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; also the "Longest suicide note" with more left wing policies than usual under Michael foot,
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It doesn't matter what the Labour membership think, they are not the one that put it in Government, it the general population that ultimately decides.
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It's official Corbyn is leader and Labour will not get elected as it was the case also under Michael Foot.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34223157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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No its official he is the New Labour Leader, the rest is your opinion which everyone is well aware of, you've been banging your drum about it for a while.NWpostie wrote:It's official Corbyn is leader and Labour will not get elected as it was the case also under Michael Foot.
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Indeed I have that's the benefit of a free speech democracy that I believe in and fought for, the Labour is free to choose their leaders , I still think it's a bad choice. Time will tell, those who fail to learn from the past is doomed to repeat the mistakes in the future.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:No its official he is the New Labour Leader, the rest is your opinion which everyone is well aware of, you've been banging your drum about it for a while.NWpostie wrote:It's official Corbyn is leader and Labour will not get elected as it was the case also under Michael Foot.
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and yet people still vote Conservative 
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A matter of opinion my friend, in politics its always the lesser of the two evils. I vote accordingly :)TrueBlueTerrier wrote:and yet people still vote Conservative
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New Labour are finished.halfull wrote:labour are finished & its for the better of the whole country.
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All labour are finished. What happened the weekend just put the iceing on the cake.dav1524 wrote:New Labour are finished.halfull wrote:labour are finished & its for the better of the whole country.
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NWpostie wrote:A matter of opinion my friend, in politics its always the lesser of the two evils. I vote accordingly :)TrueBlueTerrier wrote:and yet people still vote Conservative
Strangely my opinion is the exact opposite. I think the Conservatives are the biggest danger to security, especially when it comes to employment and for those falling on hard times. IDS, if I believed in good and evil, should be branded with χξϛ on his arse
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