Questions for Weekly Resource Meetings ?

[Big Daz]

Im not making any time by the end of the week all paid hours are worked one way or another, so nowt to fear.

[islfor]

fishtank

We have carried on as before with DTD at my D.O, most if not all do them all by Friday I do 1/6th on a Saturday.

Im not arguing for any system some times I do 1/6th a day no ifs no buts sometimes I cold call and take where Im going.

Rare to get 4 items and rare for 4 items to be the majority of dels its usually the minority of dels.

Nobody has had 5 yet. Im still getting 3 most weeks but sometimes 2 sets.

When we progress with revison duties wil be planned on 1/6th a day cold calling.

Offically DTD is in workload in reality that only comes with revsision.

The revision is the reset button, not the houcus pocus of the supplement.

you are missing the point - WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID FOR DELIVERING THEM !!!!!
THE AGREEMENT HAS STARTED NOW

[gb93]

The agreement DOES NOT state we must do 1/6 a day
What's we not getting paid to deliver them anymore got to do with it.

[fishtank]

The agreement DOES NOT state we must do 1/6 a day
What's we not getting paid to deliver them anymore got to do with it.

It doesn't say you can't leave them all until saturday either....but that would be stupid.
Give me an argument for not doing 1/6 a day that doesn't involve chasing time both indoor and out.

[gb93]

The agreement DOES NOT state we must do 1/6 a day
What's we not getting paid to deliver them anymore got to do with it.

It doesn't say you can't leave them all until saturday either....but that would be stupid.
Give me an argument for not doing 1/6 a day that doesn't involve chasing time both indoor and out.

Wow I've gettin out of Coventry
Hello Fishface

[Big Daz]

fishtank

We have carried on as before with DTD at my D.O, most if not all do them all by Friday I do 1/6th on a Saturday.

Im not arguing for any system some times I do 1/6th a day no ifs no buts sometimes I cold call and take where Im going.

Rare to get 4 items and rare for 4 items to be the majority of dels its usually the minority of dels.

Nobody has had 5 yet. Im still getting 3 most weeks but sometimes 2 sets.

When we progress with revison duties wil be planned on 1/6th a day cold calling.

Offically DTD is in workload in reality that only comes with revsision.

The revision is the reset button, not the houcus pocus of the supplement.

you are missing the point - WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID FOR DELIVERING THEM !!!!!
THE AGREEMENT HAS STARTED NOW

Sorry, dont see the relevance of not getting paid for DTD.

Simply saying on a bit of paper DTD are in workload does not make them into workload as if by magic. Into workload requires duties to be adjusted and duties in my D.O are unchanged from pre agreement as there is time galore being made and its rare for anyone to get 4 sets and nobody has had 5 yet. Paymen and ESA has been replaced by a supplement is the only REAL difference at my D.O

The revision WILL put DTD into workload in REAL terms as DTD contracts will be taken into account when planning indoor workload. The task is to ensure the time given is enough.

[gb93]

Some more sense spoken by Daz, agree on all points made .

[clashcityrocker]

Simply saying on a bit of paper DTD are in workload does not make them into workload as if by magic. Into workload requires duties to be adjusted and duties in my D.O are unchanged from pre agreement as there is time galore being made and its rare for anyone to get 4 sets and nobody has had 5 yet. Paymen and ESA has been replaced by a supplement is the only REAL difference at my D.O

The revision WILL put DTD into workload in REAL terms as DTD contracts will be taken into account when planning indoor workload. The task is to ensure the time given is enough.

So what happens in an office that is getting 5/week? Where "time galore" isn't being made?
Duties need to be adjusted yet the revision may be years down the line.
And then you have the problem of people being brought in from other offices to cover duties being told they don't have to do 1/6 D2D, leaving the regular postie with an even greater workload.
We have 2 full yorkies of undelivered D2D with no system in place for disposing of them.
To go back to the original point about having problems discussing these problems with management - I think the original poster might be my rep.

.....offices that have not deployed delivery methods revisions will have to provide genuine and demonstrable solutions to any weight or volumetric issues.

[POSTMAN]

Cut off?

[fishtank]

Cut off?

That's a solution for the members POSTMAN...and a good one but not much help for a rep trying to sort the mess out.
Cutting off is a reaction to the bulsh*t not a solution.

[POSTMAN]

What,mass cut offs so many times a week does not bring a solution!

What ARE these reps doing?

[fishtank]

What,mass cut offs so many times a week does not bring a solution!

What ARE these reps doing?

You'll never get mass cut offs with D2D.
Firms hardly get them,rurals don't have the calls,only some of the office get 5 some get none...and then there's the flyers the DOM's pets and the plain stoopid and like CCR says the guys coming in from other offices making up the rules as they go along...before you know it you've got guys isolated.
D2D into workload is a tricky b*****d that's the reality POSTMAN...it sounds simple on paper and from a members point of view it is....but from a reps.

[clashcityrocker]

What,mass cut offs so many times a week does not bring a solution!

What ARE these reps doing?

Trying to convince their members to:
stop using their cars
take their break
stop coming in early
do the job properly
stop chasing time and giving the DOM the ammunition to shoot everyone
etc
etc
etc

[POSTMAN]

Ok well here's the deal then,if members won't help themsleves then f**k 'em.
Why should my subs go to helping theses tossers out.

What a s**t hole.

[clashcityrocker]

A s**t hole - yes.
But you have to think about how we have got into this mess.
A lack of clear and effective communication from higher up.
Reps in cahoots with DOMs to get themselves an easy ride.
DOMs with a clear agenda taking the piss out of a workforce with no agenda except "Job and Finish" (early).
Most people when they go to work don't want the addded stress of arguing about cutting off. If the easiest way to avoid that is to give 20 minutes free each day, or use your car on delivery, then that is what they will do.
Meanwhile those that are still making time out of the job ensure the culture in the office is "run around and screw everyone else."