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People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
Do you have a link to where they have banned overtime while on rehab?
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yellowbelly
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
Not necessarily. An individual could work for longer at a more reasonable pace but perhaps less at Usain Bolt pace.
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roadrunner bill
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
I'm in my fifties, and have arthritis in my knee, I struggle to complete the ridiculous sized walks,
I cannot work at the pace of a 20 year old, it's getting harder, I blame royal mail for my skeletal issues...
How much longer I continue, it's not much.. it's getting crucifying..
I cannot work at the pace of a 20 year old, it's getting harder, I blame royal mail for my skeletal issues...
How much longer I continue, it's not much.. it's getting crucifying..
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Sean06
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
No link but def not allowed in nimc.completed a rehab 2yrs ago and was banned from all ot because i could no longer do my own duty even tho i was placed on dda by ohs.infact 6 of us were banned from ot only when threatened with a tribunal did they get ohs involved an we won our case to be able to do ot again was quite stressful.TrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 08:06Do you have a link to where they have banned overtime while on rehab?
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Barnacle
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
At some point, there must surely be a group grievance or health and safety complaint or something, because there is a limit to how much longer and how much more load we walk and carry or push.roadrunner bill wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 10:01I'm in my fifties, and have arthritis in my knee, I struggle to complete the ridiculous sized walks,
I cannot work at the pace of a 20 year old, it's getting harder, I blame royal mail for my skeletal issues...
How much longer I continue, it's not much.. it's getting crucifying..
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Sean06
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
Is this not why people pay their cwu subs.Barnacle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 10:30At some point, there must surely be a group grievance or health and safety complaint or something, because there is a limit to how much longer and how much more load we walk and carry or push.roadrunner bill wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 10:01I'm in my fifties, and have arthritis in my knee, I struggle to complete the ridiculous sized walks,
I cannot work at the pace of a 20 year old, it's getting harder, I blame royal mail for my skeletal issues...
How much longer I continue, it's not much.. it's getting crucifying..
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Barnacle
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
Someone said that the union agreed to the current system of no limit on distance walked or cumulative amount carried on a shift. Don’t know if this is true.Sean06 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 13:26Is this not why people pay their cwu subs.Barnacle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 10:30At some point, there must surely be a group grievance or health and safety complaint or something, because there is a limit to how much longer and how much more load we walk and carry or push.roadrunner bill wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024, 10:01I'm in my fifties, and have arthritis in my knee, I struggle to complete the ridiculous sized walks,
I cannot work at the pace of a 20 year old, it's getting harder, I blame royal mail for my skeletal issues...
How much longer I continue, it's not much.. it's getting crucifying..
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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redlen
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
Agreed
The whole point of the revisions agreed by the CWU were less indoor and more outdoor work.
Why do you think the CWU is silent on unrealistic workloads and recruitment and retention with these prejudicial new contracts and two-tier workforce
Shame on them.
The whole point of the revisions agreed by the CWU were less indoor and more outdoor work.
Why do you think the CWU is silent on unrealistic workloads and recruitment and retention with these prejudicial new contracts and two-tier workforce
Shame on them.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
The union agreed to let individual offices set their own delivery spans (in theory)
The smaller the delivery span the higher percentage of part time staff in an office.
Consequently to protect full time employment (and full time subs) we have ended up with longer delivery spans. Too long some would say.
The other option is to make delivery a part time occupation.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
I feel your pain mateted_e_bear wrote: ↑07 Jul 2024, 18:55I also understand what your point is but I can see it from a different perspective, I'm pushing 60, not as fast as I was 20 years ago but I'm not quite ready for the scrapheap, anyway when I'm on leave/day off they put one of our in their 20's early starting super runners on who finish at least an hour earlier than I do, fortunately they haven't started questioning why I can't do the same but having said that it's probably just a matter of time.
When I came back from a period of Sick Leave during the "Back to Work Interview" the Manager said, "While you've been away no one's claimed any overtime on your duty"
I said, "What not 6 foot 20 year old Tom or 6 foot 20 year old Dick"? I'm an Old Git and I think it's it's about time RM started looking at "Age Friendly" working practices (?) like Shorter Walks & Job Sharing instead of trying to force Posties to Jack because they're worn out!
They've got to admit that they need us Old Gits because they haven't been able to fill the ranks with 100K Work Hungry Teenagers willing to walk Sundays!
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Barnacle
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
They are in breach of the Equality Act 2010.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑12 Jul 2024, 16:16I feel your pain mateted_e_bear wrote: ↑07 Jul 2024, 18:55I also understand what your point is but I can see it from a different perspective, I'm pushing 60, not as fast as I was 20 years ago but I'm not quite ready for the scrapheap, anyway when I'm on leave/day off they put one of our in their 20's early starting super runners on who finish at least an hour earlier than I do, fortunately they haven't started questioning why I can't do the same but having said that it's probably just a matter of time.![]()
When I came back from a period of Sick Leave during the "Back to Work Interview" the Manager said, "While you've been away no one's claimed any overtime on your duty"![]()
I said, "What not 6 foot 20 year old Tom or 6 foot 20 year old Dick"? I'm an Old Git and I think it's it's about time RM started looking at "Age Friendly" working practices (?) like Shorter Walks & Job Sharing instead of trying to force Posties to Jack because they're worn out!
They've got to admit that they need us Old Gits because they haven't been able to fill the ranks with 100K Work Hungry Teenagers willing to walk Sundays!![]()
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rubberbond
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
In all these replies nobody has identified what “ too slow” is , is it objectively measured, or just a subjective opinion. What is the correct speed, because I certainly don’t know ,on heavy days I can’t complete have no intention of working overtime. No manager has spoken to me about whether I’m too slow or not , so it’s entirely subjective, tell them to sod off or show you how it’s done.
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Barnacle
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
I think only a very few of us are ‘slow’. We only need to be stuck behind a civilian just walking up a road at normal pace to realise that our steady walking pace is fast by comparison.rubberbond wrote: ↑16 Jul 2024, 17:49In all these replies nobody has identified what “ too slow” is , is it objectively measured, or just a subjective opinion. What is the correct speed, because I certainly don’t know ,on heavy days I can’t complete have no intention of working overtime. No manager has spoken to me about whether I’m too slow or not , so it’s entirely subjective, tell them to sod off or show you how it’s done.
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.
I think its written "Somewhere" that you only have to work at a reasonable speed, which again is open to interpretation.
This is obviously not going to be fast enough for the majority of Managers, but the wording suits them because they can Gaslight weaker staff and they'll fall for it.
I'd like to see some of these Fat Bastards TRY and complete a 5 or 6 hour delivery in the heat of the Summer without having a heart attack!
This is obviously not going to be fast enough for the majority of Managers, but the wording suits them because they can Gaslight weaker staff and they'll fall for it.
I'd like to see some of these Fat Bastards TRY and complete a 5 or 6 hour delivery in the heat of the Summer without having a heart attack!
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)