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Sick Pay/SSP

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Sick Pay/SSP

Post by barkersboy »

In my MC the rumour is that RM will not pay any one for the first period of sickness and we will have to sign on for SSP. Anyone heard anything about being off sick and the connection to pay in RM proposals?
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Re: Sick Pay/SSP

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barkersboy wrote:In my MC the rumour is that RM will not pay any one for the first period of sickness and we will have to sign on for SSP. Anyone heard anything about being off sick and the connection to pay in RM proposals?
mayb its just for new entrants,,, as far as i no full-timers get paid 6 months full pay and 6 months half pay, tho i think after a certain time scale the early morning allowance stops .
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Post by wakkono »

ive heard this its under the new attendace they want to bring in no pay for first 5 days of sickness full pay for 3 months after that
not too sure on this but dont quote me but the stages are going to get shorter and a lot easier to trigger if royal mail gets there way
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Post by barkersboy »

Thanks Wakkona. As I suspected, this will come under 'Other issues' in Royal Mails proposed agreement. Such As Personal Performance, MTSF, New IR Framework and Attendance Procedures. This is where I start getting thitchy. None of these proposed changes have come into the public domain. Now the original talks have been abandoned by RM and executive action has started, surely our Leaders?? should let us know exactly what is being proposed!
When and if an agreement is reached I reckon we will be urged to vote for another Way Forward Agreement and we will all be p....ss.ed off again when we get to read the 'small print'.
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Post by POSTMAN »

wakkono wrote:ive heard this its under the new attendace they want to bring in no pay for first 5 days of sickness full pay for 3 months after that
not too sure on this but dont quote me but the stages are going to get shorter and a lot easier to trigger if royal mail gets there way
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Post by madelin4 »

POSTMAN wrote:
wakkono wrote:ive heard this its under the new attendace they want to bring in no pay for first 5 days of sickness full pay for 3 months after that
not too sure on this but dont quote me but the stages are going to get shorter and a lot easier to trigger if royal mail gets there way
This goes on at .......................................................................................................ASDA

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in other words going sick now b4 it all changes :roll: the 5 day thing they prob think wud stop people taking 1 week here or there..
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Post by norbet colon »

POSTMAN wrote:
wakkono wrote:ive heard this its under the new attendace they want to bring in no pay for first 5 days of sickness full pay for 3 months after that
not too sure on this but dont quote me but the stages are going to get shorter and a lot easier to trigger if royal mail gets there way
This goes on at .......................................................................................................ASDA

:roll:
With Asda , if you go sick your'e on a overtime ban for a fortnight . What staff do is claim benefits and state they are only on a low hours contract , then pile on the overtime until the next time their income is to be reassessed . They also do a thing called Time Theft that's from Walmart , somebody won £18K in a ET , the video showing taking his medication ,not scivving," mysteriously disappeared ". Asda tried a thing called Scrape-away in their Warehouses doing a preference exercise to do away with National Collective Bargaining with the GMB , the GMB took Asda to court and Asda were fined . This Scrapeaway was "just a idea" with ideas like sacking reps , the other story was calling people to the Office on the tannoy with Foreign Sounding names and threatening them with the sack if they couldn't produce Work Permits , UK passports etc.This was a response to all the graffiti after 9/11 "Listening to Our People "!>Leighton loves Walmart , 50 Law suits were taken out against them in the US re Labour Laws .RM have threatened a new tightened up Attendance Procedure for the last three years , in Jan 06 RM wanted it trialed " Our Right to manage " ! in the RM Battleplan PDF on another thread.
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Post by madelin4 »

The way our sick is dealt with at mo is bad enough!!They will no doubt try and push an even worse one in. :mad :mad
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Post by DGP1 »

All this talk of sick pay changes is starting to make me feel ill (now where's me doctors phone number :Very Happy )
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Post by madelin4 »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:All this talk of sick pay changes is starting to make me feel ill (now where's me doctors phone number :Very Happy )
exactly .. the whole lot makes me feel sick!!!!!
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Post by Harold Hardrada »

madelin4 wrote:The way our sick is dealt with at mo is bad enough!!They will no doubt try and push an even worse one in. :mad :mad
Are u taking the mick
Only a complete numbnuts can get the sack at RM,how many chances do you want Stage 1,2and 3 and whats more you get PAID for being off sick,most firms make you have the 5days waiting period anyway.
You lot want to get in the real world.
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Post by madelin4 »

Harold Hardrada wrote:
madelin4 wrote:The way our sick is dealt with at mo is bad enough!!They will no doubt try and push an even worse one in. :mad :mad
Are u taking the mick
Only a complete numbnuts can get the sack at RM,how many chances do you want Stage 1,2and 3 and whats more you get PAID for being off sick,most firms make you have the 5days waiting period anyway.
You lot want to get in the real world.
I am afraid HAROLD it is very very hard to be in the real world with Royal Mail!!!!!!! YOU might see it someday !!!!!!! Royal Mail sack people when they have had to go into hospital for operations!!! Makes me mad!!!! Hasnt happend to me but i happen to care not only for myself but also for others , and by the sounds of it you dont!!!
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Post by Harold Hardrada »

The only ones who get sacked like that are the muppets who are already on dodgy ground in the first place,you no the types who can`t be arsed getting up on a Saturday morning,or the wifey is mithering them to come and do some shopping and take a few days off as HEY I GET PAID ANYWAY,then they actually get a proper ilness and then there in the shite.
How many people in your office have been heard to brag that they get 6 weeks off holiday and then stiff the business for a couple of weeks on the sick as they like to play the system.
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Post by madelin4 »

Thats there choice at the end of the day.. Lets face it , royal mail just want all the full-time staff out and ones i know who got to a stage 3 all full-timers!!!
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Post by DGP1 »

madelin4 leave it alone he's only trolling maybe he should go back to that site that cannot be mentioned with all his other management licks :wink:
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