Rebuilding Royal Mail Part 2

[SkiSunday]

20,000 new entrants of which 146 have more than 2 years service.

No one is hanging about for 3 years.

The recruitment of new entrants in my region didn’t really start until July 2023, and also in London where I previously worked, so it’s no wonder only 146 of us have more than two years’ service. I suspect if you reran the calculation in August or later there would be considerably more than 146 with two years’ service.

Do you get some sort of extra payment, like maybe London weighting in your region? Because I find it a wee bit disingenuous that you keep bigging-up new contracts when they are all paid an absolute pittance. Especially if they are delivering 200 tracked a day, like your good self lol.

[UNION JACK]

Love the fact Martin Walsh has since disappeared from the comments section as his words come under scrutiny. At least have the decency to come and defend what you have said. People are asking you questions and querying your claims ffs. Pure arrogance.

Yup, straight up shameful behaviour from Mr Walsh.

[Grads75]

Whist I can predict the way the above will be received. Nevertheless as someone who has never hid from communicating with members of this board.

Whilst I am in a position which should face scrutiny and questions, I believe there is no place for just abuse.

Prior to the agreement yesterday this board was full of such things as the delivery supplement was going , paid meal reliefs were finishing and that any agreement was conditional on agreement of the USO.

None of that has been proven true.

A few facts about the agreement and next steps.

1. This is only the second no strings pay deal in over 30 years. All the others have been linked to change.

2. If Royal Mail had offered the CWU back in 2022 a no strings pay rise of 4.2% I would have a bet we would never have gone on strike. A strike which ended up a pay and change agreement.

3. Since privatisation only twice have pay rise been above inflation

4. The 4.2% flows through to all allowances and moves the legacy hourly rate for delivery staff to £15.04 per hour. The minimum wage is £12.21.

5. BT made a 13 billion profit and the pay award for open reach was 3.6%. Royal Mail are likely to make a profit of circa 15 million.

6. In year 1 the cost of the pay rise is £220 million which will increase in year 2 and 3.

7. The most Royal Mail will get from USO is circa 300 million pounds and that is possible not realistic.

8. Year 2 and 3 will at worse keep pace with inflation.

9. There is an improved VR terms. This removes the tapering which stops anyone over 64.5 from getting the full terms. It increases the maximisation payment to 52 weeks, it increases the minimum from 8 weeks to 13 and increases the multiplier from 2 to 2.5.

10. It commits to a pilot in a minimum of 12 delivery units and 2 mail centres a performance incentive scheme with the aim of rolling it out across the operation. Talks in the other business units will take place on separate schemes.

11. There is a firm commitment to reduce staff including allowing part timers to increase their hours where any agency has been in place over 13 weeks.

This is all your being asked to vote on in this agreement.

There will be a separate agreement on the USO which will be subject to a separate vote of the membership. The commitment is that the pilots have to be put right and us agreeing a sensible deployment plan and an agreement which will be a standalone vote. It is expected Ofcom will make their decision before the summer recess.

Further agreements will follow on the following :

1. The equalisation of new entrants pay , terms and conditions in incremental steps including the first in September 2025.
2 A review of SA and overtime to be completed by December 2025.
3.An improve sick pay agreement by September 2025.
4. A pilot on new ways of working to produce a more supportive approach to my performance app.
5. A total reset of employee relations and industrial relations by September
6. A new growth and investment strategy by December 2025.

These will be subject to separate votes.

EP have been in charge of this company since the 2nd June and have ageeed a separate pay deal and further talks on all the above.

It is a good start. More progress to come!

More holes in it than a sieve it will get voted in as people are blindsided by the 4.2% very clever by RM .

[Valentina@1]

Its a NO from me its just an awful payrise and to say 2% in any talks is an absolute insult whether they revise it or not ,but where do we go now.Royal Mail know strikes will never work again because the CWU will fold as soon as the going gets tough, i think we are in a position now where its every man for himself if you dont like the terms and pay you better look for another job i doubt its going to get any better just look at the new owners history ,and that's whether your in the union or not. Royal Mail are now just the same as any parcel company poor pay and poor working conditions.

[UNION JACK]

Point number 5 on Martins list BT make 13 billion profit and the employees get a 3.6 % payrise that is absolutely shocking who on earth are their union,they should be ashamed negotiating that .

[qwerty2]

Point number 5 on Martins list BT make 13 billion profit and the employees get a 3.6 % payrise that is absolutely shocking who on earth are their union,they should be ashamed negotiating that .

The CWU are their union

[BELIAL]

Point number 5 on Martins list BT make 13 billion profit and the employees get a 3.6 % payrise that is absolutely shocking who on earth are their union,they should be ashamed negotiating that .

Good spot. You might think ,if they had half a brain they might not have mentioned that fact. Seems like our representatives are capable of negotiating a pay cut whatever the profit levels are.

[Sean06]

Whist I can predict the way the above will be received. Nevertheless as someone who has never hid from communicating with members of this board.

Whilst I am in a position which should face scrutiny and questions, I believe there is no place for just abuse.

Prior to the agreement yesterday this board was full of such things as the delivery supplement was going , paid meal reliefs were finishing and that any agreement was conditional on agreement of the USO.

None of that has been proven true.

A few facts about the agreement and next steps.

1. This is only the second no strings pay deal in over 30 years. All the others have been linked to change.

2. If Royal Mail had offered the CWU back in 2022 a no strings pay rise of 4.2% I would have a bet we would never have gone on strike. A strike which ended up a pay and change agreement.

3. Since privatisation only twice have pay rise been above inflation

4. The 4.2% flows through to all allowances and moves the legacy hourly rate for delivery staff to £15.04 per hour. The minimum wage is £12.21.

5. BT made a 13 billion profit and the pay award for open reach was 3.6%. Royal Mail are likely to make a profit of circa 15 million.

6. In year 1 the cost of the pay rise is £220 million which will increase in year 2 and 3.

7. The most Royal Mail will get from USO is circa 300 million pounds and that is possible not realistic.

8. Year 2 and 3 will at worse keep pace with inflation.

9. There is an improved VR terms. This removes the tapering which stops anyone over 64.5 from getting the full terms. It increases the maximisation payment to 52 weeks, it increases the minimum from 8 weeks to 13 and increases the multiplier from 2 to 2.5.

10. It commits to a pilot in a minimum of 12 delivery units and 2 mail centres a performance incentive scheme with the aim of rolling it out across the operation. Talks in the other business units will take place on separate schemes.

11. There is a firm commitment to reduce staff including allowing part timers to increase their hours where any agency has been in place over 13 weeks.

This is all your being asked to vote on in this agreement.

There will be a separate agreement on the USO which will be subject to a separate vote of the membership. The commitment is that the pilots have to be put right and us agreeing a sensible deployment plan and an agreement which will be a standalone vote. It is expected Ofcom will make their decision before the summer recess.

Further agreements will follow on the following :

1. The equalisation of new entrants pay , terms and conditions in incremental steps including the first in September 2025.
2 A review of SA and overtime to be completed by December 2025.
3.An improve sick pay agreement by September 2025.
4. A pilot on new ways of working to produce a more supportive approach to my performance app.
5. A total reset of employee relations and industrial relations by September
6. A new growth and investment strategy by December 2025.

These will be subject to separate votes.

EP have been in charge of this company since the 2nd June and have ageeed a separate pay deal and further talks on all the above.

It is a good start. More progress to come!

What a absolute tool you are

An there is the reason he very rarely comes on here...

[SkiSunday]

Whist I can predict the way the above will be received. Nevertheless as someone who has never hid from communicating with members of this board.

Whilst I am in a position which should face scrutiny and questions, I believe there is no place for just abuse.

Prior to the agreement yesterday this board was full of such things as the delivery supplement was going , paid meal reliefs were finishing and that any agreement was conditional on agreement of the USO.

None of that has been proven true.

A few facts about the agreement and next steps.

1. This is only the second no strings pay deal in over 30 years. All the others have been linked to change.

2. If Royal Mail had offered the CWU back in 2022 a no strings pay rise of 4.2% I would have a bet we would never have gone on strike. A strike which ended up a pay and change agreement.

3. Since privatisation only twice have pay rise been above inflation

4. The 4.2% flows through to all allowances and moves the legacy hourly rate for delivery staff to £15.04 per hour. The minimum wage is £12.21.

5. BT made a 13 billion profit and the pay award for open reach was 3.6%. Royal Mail are likely to make a profit of circa 15 million.

6. In year 1 the cost of the pay rise is £220 million which will increase in year 2 and 3.

7. The most Royal Mail will get from USO is circa 300 million pounds and that is possible not realistic.

8. Year 2 and 3 will at worse keep pace with inflation.

9. There is an improved VR terms. This removes the tapering which stops anyone over 64.5 from getting the full terms. It increases the maximisation payment to 52 weeks, it increases the minimum from 8 weeks to 13 and increases the multiplier from 2 to 2.5.

10. It commits to a pilot in a minimum of 12 delivery units and 2 mail centres a performance incentive scheme with the aim of rolling it out across the operation. Talks in the other business units will take place on separate schemes.

11. There is a firm commitment to reduce staff including allowing part timers to increase their hours where any agency has been in place over 13 weeks.

This is all your being asked to vote on in this agreement.

There will be a separate agreement on the USO which will be subject to a separate vote of the membership. The commitment is that the pilots have to be put right and us agreeing a sensible deployment plan and an agreement which will be a standalone vote. It is expected Ofcom will make their decision before the summer recess.

Further agreements will follow on the following :

1. The equalisation of new entrants pay , terms and conditions in incremental steps including the first in September 2025.
2 A review of SA and overtime to be completed by December 2025.
3.An improve sick pay agreement by September 2025.
4. A pilot on new ways of working to produce a more supportive approach to my performance app.
5. A total reset of employee relations and industrial relations by September
6. A new growth and investment strategy by December 2025.

These will be subject to separate votes.

EP have been in charge of this company since the 2nd June and have ageeed a separate pay deal and further talks on all the above.

It is a good start. More progress to come!

What a absolute tool you are

An there is the reason he very rarely comes on here...

Ah yes, the voice of reason

[UNION JACK]

Point number 5 on Martins list BT make 13 billion profit and the employees get a 3.6 % payrise that is absolutely shocking who on earth are their union,they should be ashamed negotiating that .

Good spot. You might think ,if they had half a brain they might not have mentioned that fact. Seems like our representatives are capable of negotiating a pay cut whatever the profit levels are.

[ted_e_bear]

Point number 5 on Martins list BT make 13 billion profit and the employees get a 3.6 % payrise that is absolutely shocking who on earth are their union,they should be ashamed negotiating that .

Good spot. You might think ,if they had half a brain they might not have mentioned that fact. Seems like our representatives are capable of negotiating a pay cut whatever the profit levels are.

Yeah I think they scored a bit of an own goal with that one, I suspect they were trying to point out that they managed to get us a better rise than BT despite RM making much less profit, but in reality it just highlighted what a s**t deal they got for BT

[DryPop]

First step to equalisation in September?
Cutting it fine guys.

[funkflex55]

First step to equalisation in September?
Cutting it fine guys.

The first step was choosing the biscuits for the negotiations.

Octobers step is finding a good deal on those biscuits ready for purchase. Choosing the right biscuits is important if we want to get the Czech guy to play ball.

[toonshola]

First step to equalisation in September?
Cutting it fine guys.

This is the union. When they give a date the rule is always add 17 months and half the amount of benefits they promised in the first place.

[TopperGas]

The CWU are either being played by the company or are Gaslighting union members, as whilst we're being told the company as no money by the CWU and is on the verge of bankruptcy today they announced they are paying nearly £50m to Pay Point for a 49% share in their Collect+ shops.