Do we have enough full time release members to join in the party - what am I saying, of course we have. This "joined up position" dingo - it's not like "form a circle" is itdingo wrote:They have been invited , the emails from Richard Moor confirm this. Nationally they are meeting to get s joined up postion.
Lincox you are getting confused , Dale Haddons letter talked about BT2010 was not about budget driven issues. However the Business Transformation Agreement was always about making savings , Higson estimated about 340 million by the 3rd year but this has been down dialled several times. The BT agreement is littered with wording around effiency , raising performance. Closing Mail Centres , RDCs , doing revison sin collections, reducing full time staff to 75% , raising the performance of delivery offices up to the top 10%', cutting firm , packets and replishment drivers for CDVs all where about making savings.Lincox wrote:Dingo, I dont understand the point that Royal Mail are not achieving the savings that were agreed during the revision. The BT2010 was not supposed to be about savings, it was about new structures of working to take account of the change in the things we deliver. ie less mail, more packets. Why has the CWU allowed savings to creep into this mess.
We have requested further dialogue with the employer on this to try and establish the exact nature of this initiative and ensure that we are jointly involved both in terms of the reviews and any outputs they produce.dingo wrote:They have been invited , the emails from Richard Moor confirm this. Nationally they are meeting to get s joined up postion.
the only involvement from front line staff was a couple of hand picked people were to be spoken to by pwc lawyerfishtank wrote:We have requested further dialogue with the employer on this to try and establish the exact nature of this initiative and ensure that we are jointly involved both in terms of the reviews and any outputs they produce.dingo wrote:They have been invited , the emails from Richard Moor confirm this. Nationally they are meeting to get s joined up postion.
The initiative has already started,the visits have started,there is no sign of involvement and the position as far as i'm led to believe is still one of non co-operation.
That doesn't sound like an invite to me,it sounds more like a bunch of kids pleading with their parents to come along and the parents finally relenting as long as the kids behave themselves.
This smacks of desperation to me,the CWU should be driving their own reviews,not tagging along with a Royal Mail savings agenda/privatisation led poke about.
How will it look to the members to have our guys standing next to a bean counter with a calculator?
yes yes yesLincox wrote:Exactly, this is not just a Bristol or Preston problem. We are all in it together (not David Camerons in it together) and the union should be looking for a National Day of Action to support these colleagues who have stuck their necks on the line.
I had a good chat with the one that came to our office. Told them about the total lack of leadership in the office and how the managers threaten and intimidate staff to cover their own management failings. For once a vistior that actually wrote it all down and i saw them later on a laptop so presume typing it all up.fishtank wrote:O u t d o o r E B u l l e t i n / I s s u e 1 3 / D e c e m b e r 2 0 1 2
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This month’s frequently asked questions?
Q. The Delivery Office I work in has recently had a visit from a company looking at whether the revision we have undertaken is working, did the CWU agree to this?
A. NO and there is no need to cooperate with anything they do or ask you.
I think that says it all really.
They then went home and had their evening meal and that's the last you'll hear of that..............we've seen it all before, it's usually the caring kid glove/interest angle that makes you think someone actually gives a crap only to find that the next move is closing off any avenue of leeway there may have been and to expect more of the same.celerycelery wrote:I had a good chat with the one that came to our office. Told them about the total lack of leadership in the office and how the managers threaten and intimidate staff to cover their own management failings. For once a vistior that actually wrote it all down and i saw them later on a laptop so presume typing it all up.fishtank wrote:O u t d o o r E B u l l e t i n / I s s u e 1 3 / D e c e m b e r 2 0 1 2
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This month’s frequently asked questions?
Q. The Delivery Office I work in has recently had a visit from a company looking at whether the revision we have undertaken is working, did the CWU agree to this?
A. NO and there is no need to cooperate with anything they do or ask you.
I think that says it all really.
Any union visitors?celerycelery wrote: We never had anyone visit our office till this year, and now we have manager after manager, planner after planner, directors the lot.