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Martins comment,,

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enskied wrote:
19 Jul 2025, 08:38
A2B wrote:
15 Jul 2025, 17:35
enskied wrote:
15 Jul 2025, 17:21

No competition for delivering mail, yet I suspect that RM are making a fortune out of it at the moment.
There's no competition because there's next to no profit in delivering letters.
It's 100% profit to receive payment and not provide what was paid for.
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enskied wrote:
19 Jul 2025, 08:38
It's 100% profit to receive payment and not provide what was paid for.
The dream of any corporation. The only catch is usually you can't get away with it.
The machine stops.
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claretandblue wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 07:04
It shouldn't be rocket science to make it work, you have 2 people doing double mail and small packets, and a driver doing the medium and large plus Reggie's and consumer collections.
Not how it works. The 2 people are doing e erything on those 2 duties. The driver is doing all parcels, 1st class and collections on an entirely different 2 duties.
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steve1873 wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 05:42
claretandblue wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 07:04
It shouldn't be rocket science to make it work, you have 2 people doing double mail and small packets, and a driver doing the medium and large plus Reggie's and consumer collections.
Not how it works. The 2 people are doing e erything on those 2 duties. The driver is doing all parcels, 1st class and collections on an entirely different 2 duties.
I know, but it doesn't work, as the union has admitted.
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claretandblue wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 06:45
steve1873 wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 05:42
claretandblue wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 07:04
It shouldn't be rocket science to make it work, you have 2 people doing double mail and small packets, and a driver doing the medium and large plus Reggie's and consumer collections.
Not how it works. The 2 people are doing e erything on those 2 duties. The driver is doing all parcels, 1st class and collections on an entirely different 2 duties.
I know, but it doesn't work, as the union has admitted.
The main reason I can think of that it doesn't work is there's too much work for the time allocated, perhaps if they went back to the original idea of making the duties smaller and therefore achievable then it might have a chance of working.
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ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 08:57
claretandblue wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 06:45
steve1873 wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 05:42
claretandblue wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 07:04
It shouldn't be rocket science to make it work, you have 2 people doing double mail and small packets, and a driver doing the medium and large plus Reggie's and consumer collections.
Not how it works. The 2 people are doing e erything on those 2 duties. The driver is doing all parcels, 1st class and collections on an entirely different 2 duties.
I know, but it doesn't work, as the union has admitted.
The main reason I can think of that it doesn't work is there's too much work for the time allocated, perhaps if they went back to the original idea of making the duties smaller and therefore achievable then it might have a chance of working.
Depends if you've enough room for extra frames, we haven't, so my solution is more packet duties.
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ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 08:57
perhaps if they went back to the original idea of making the duties smaller
Smaller duties = more duties = -£425m savings = EP Group never pays off their loan.
The machine stops.
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Mr Rush wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 21:17
ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 08:57
perhaps if they went back to the original idea of making the duties smaller
Smaller duties = more duties = -£425m savings = EP Group never pays off their loan.
Maybe we need to switch it round? They’re trying to make drastic cuts to the section of the business that needs a certain level of staffing or it fails to deliver on every marker.

Why don’t they instead look at other areas which are horrendously wasteful? There are massive hubs which will never be used to full capacity unless we swallow up market share. That isn’t happening soon. Meanwhile there is technology in those hubs that requires fortunes to purchase and maintain. The hubs themselves are cavernous. Think of the energy costs?

Our office is huge with a load of wasted space above our heads. All that space is being heated and cooled.

Once you start looking, you see places to save money and be more efficient everywhere.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Barnacle wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 21:39
Maybe we need to switch it round? They’re trying to make drastic cuts to the section of the business that needs a certain level of staffing or it fails to deliver on every marker.

Why don’t they instead look at other areas which are horrendously wasteful? There are massive hubs which will never be used to full capacity unless we swallow up market share. That isn’t happening soon. Meanwhile there is technology in those hubs that requires fortunes to purchase and maintain. The hubs themselves are cavernous. Think of the energy costs?

Our office is huge with a load of wasted space above our heads. All that space is being heated and cooled.

Once you start looking, you see places to save money and be more efficient everywhere.
Management will be the first place they look for savings.
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Barnacle wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 21:39

Maybe we need to switch it round? They’re trying to make drastic cuts to the section of the business that needs a certain level of staffing or it fails to deliver on every marker.

Why don’t they instead look at other areas which are horrendously wasteful? There are massive hubs which will never be used to full capacity unless we swallow up market share. That isn’t happening soon. Meanwhile there is technology in those hubs that requires fortunes to purchase and maintain. The hubs themselves are cavernous. Think of the energy costs?

Our office is huge with a load of wasted space above our heads. All that space is being heated and cooled.

Once you start looking, you see places to save money and be more efficient everywhere.

The new super hubs were apparently built with energy efficiency in mind. The one at Daventry harvests rainwater for the toilets and uses on-site solar generation whilst the Midlands parcel hub has energy efficient heating and ventilation.

But you're right, there is more fat in the system than just the front line.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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postslippete wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 18:11
Barnacle wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 21:39

Maybe we need to switch it round? They’re trying to make drastic cuts to the section of the business that needs a certain level of staffing or it fails to deliver on every marker.

Why don’t they instead look at other areas which are horrendously wasteful? There are massive hubs which will never be used to full capacity unless we swallow up market share. That isn’t happening soon. Meanwhile there is technology in those hubs that requires fortunes to purchase and maintain. The hubs themselves are cavernous. Think of the energy costs?

Our office is huge with a load of wasted space above our heads. All that space is being heated and cooled.

Once you start looking, you see places to save money and be more efficient everywhere.

The new super hubs were apparently built with energy efficiency in mind. The one at Daventry harvests rainwater for the toilets and uses on-site solar generation whilst the Midlands parcel hub has energy efficient heating and ventilation.

But you're right, there is more fat in the system than just the front line.
It was mentioned in one recent thread that for one DO, most of their packets have come from the hubs. if you multiply that over all the DOs covered by a MC, that's a lot of packets no longer going through the PSMs. I do wonder if RM will start to decommission and remove some PSMs from MCs and abandon any plans to install any more.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 19:39
postslippete wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 18:11
Barnacle wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 21:39

Maybe we need to switch it round? They’re trying to make drastic cuts to the section of the business that needs a certain level of staffing or it fails to deliver on every marker.

Why don’t they instead look at other areas which are horrendously wasteful? There are massive hubs which will never be used to full capacity unless we swallow up market share. That isn’t happening soon. Meanwhile there is technology in those hubs that requires fortunes to purchase and maintain. The hubs themselves are cavernous. Think of the energy costs?

Our office is huge with a load of wasted space above our heads. All that space is being heated and cooled.

Once you start looking, you see places to save money and be more efficient everywhere.

The new super hubs were apparently built with energy efficiency in mind. The one at Daventry harvests rainwater for the toilets and uses on-site solar generation whilst the Midlands parcel hub has energy efficient heating and ventilation.

But you're right, there is more fat in the system than just the front line.
It was mentioned in one recent thread that for one DO, most of their packets have come from the hubs. if you multiply that over all the DOs covered by a MC, that's a lot of packets no longer going through the PSMs. I do wonder if RM will start to decommission and remove some PSMs from MCs and abandon any plans to install any more.
What does PSM stand for?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Barnacle wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 19:52
SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 19:39
postslippete wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 18:11
Barnacle wrote:
21 Jul 2025, 21:39

Maybe we need to switch it round? They’re trying to make drastic cuts to the section of the business that needs a certain level of staffing or it fails to deliver on every marker.

Why don’t they instead look at other areas which are horrendously wasteful? There are massive hubs which will never be used to full capacity unless we swallow up market share. That isn’t happening soon. Meanwhile there is technology in those hubs that requires fortunes to purchase and maintain. The hubs themselves are cavernous. Think of the energy costs?

Our office is huge with a load of wasted space above our heads. All that space is being heated and cooled.

Once you start looking, you see places to save money and be more efficient everywhere.

The new super hubs were apparently built with energy efficiency in mind. The one at Daventry harvests rainwater for the toilets and uses on-site solar generation whilst the Midlands parcel hub has energy efficient heating and ventilation.

But you're right, there is more fat in the system than just the front line.
It was mentioned in one recent thread that for one DO, most of their packets have come from the hubs. if you multiply that over all the DOs covered by a MC, that's a lot of packets no longer going through the PSMs. I do wonder if RM will start to decommission and remove some PSMs from MCs and abandon any plans to install any more.
What does PSM stand for?
Packet Sorting Machine
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It's a big tumble dryer that sorts packets. Some folk that work in processing, sit Infront of them and unjam them every couple of minutes for 8 hours a night for 16 quid an hour lol.
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SkiSunday wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 19:57
It's a big tumble dryer that sorts packets. Some folk that work in processing, sit Infront of them and unjam them every couple of minutes for 8 hours a night for 16 quid an hour lol.
I could do that 😂
What’s that job called?
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