Thank you Royal Mail

[wabbithunta]

I'm now waiting for the insane, and inane comments to follow that last comment.

Well here it comes - in a nutsack - Yes

What those two? Never!!

[Wednesday]

PT/FT... Who cares! Were all doing the same thing just working less or more hours. In a few years we'll all be on zero hour contracts and shafted even more than we are now.

What? With all the legal protections in place

We all need to wear badges saying "No to zero hour contracts" to stop this happening.

[Timelord]

There is more on this part of the agreement but I'm sure you've read it as you seem so positive that we'll all be on Zero Hour Contracts, despite the fact this agreement says otherwise.

And of course nothing can change the agreement but as a moot point would a 1 hour contract be OK - it's not ZERO but in the wording of the agreement it would appear to fulfil the agreement in actualite but not in the spirit. It has been said many times the words are the words and that the spirit of fairness aren't written in the agreement.

at my office we have a few people on 16 hour contracts, and at the moment a few people on long term sick, so the 16 hour staff get extra shifts offered to them which is great, but it makes their hours up, but if they want a day off then they are afraid to say no to a shift in case the manager doesn't offer it to them again. but 16 hours is better than zero.

[dvbuk55]

There is more on this part of the agreement but I'm sure you've read it as you seem so positive that we'll all be on Zero Hour Contracts, despite the fact this agreement says otherwise.

And of course nothing can change the agreement but as a moot point would a 1 hour contract be OK - it's not ZERO but in the wording of the agreement it would appear to fulfil the agreement in actualite but not in the spirit. It has been said many times the words are the words and that the spirit of fairness aren't written in the agreement.

at my office we have a few people on 16 hour contracts, and at the moment a few people on long term sick, so the 16 hour staff get extra shifts offered to them which is great, but it makes their hours up, but if they want a day off then they are afraid to say no to a shift in case the manager doesn't offer it to them again. but 16 hours is better than zero.

Well that's true, but is that not the element of a two tier work force already that the union say we're protected from?

[Bag of d2d]

What is the point of this thread?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

What is the point of this thread?

Does there have to be one. I like these random threads, it adds spice to the mix.

[jaylime]

Thank you for letting me on ips to sort all the part timers mail out,while they just come and keep emptying there boxes,while I haven't thrown one letter in on my rural.im sick to f***ing death of people moaning at work.

[Godric]

What are the inaccuracies?

This

my d2d payment is pro rata

We have not been paid separately for D2Ds for over 3 years now.

i'm averaging about 5 D2Ds per week ... and I am getting paid roughly £8 more instead of the £40 quid I got for delivering 3 D2Ds per week ... Royal Mail are making a killing I must be losing nearly £60-£70 quid per week by not getting paid for doing 5 D2Ds excluding the £8 pounds I get on top of my £12.40 night allowance that was lumped into the supplement

[Timelord]

What are the inaccuracies?

This

my d2d payment is pro rata

We have not been paid separately for D2Ds for over 3 years now.

i'm averaging about 5 D2Ds per week ... and I am getting paid roughly £8 more instead of the £40 quid I got for delivering 3 D2Ds per week ... Royal Mail are making a killing I must be losing nearly £60-£70 quid per week by not getting paid for doing 5 D2Ds excluding the £8 pounds I get on top of my £12.40 night allowance that was lumped into the supplement

[Bahia Feliz]

i'm averaging about 5 D2Ds per week ... and I am getting paid roughly £8 more instead of the £40 quid I got for delivering 3 D2Ds per week ... Royal Mail are making a killing I must be losing nearly £60-£70 quid per week by not getting paid for doing 5 D2Ds excluding the £8 pounds I get on top of my £12.40 night allowance that was lumped into the supplement

Why don't you try getting a job that pays as much as you earn now then?

[Timelord]

After all, there are so many vacancies around at the moment, we're all spoilt for choice

[Godric]

i'm averaging about 5 D2Ds per week ... and I am getting paid roughly £8 more instead of the £40 quid I got for delivering 3 D2Ds per week ... Royal Mail are making a killing I must be losing nearly £60-£70 quid per week by not getting paid for doing 5 D2Ds excluding the £8 pounds I get on top of my £12.40 night allowance that was lumped into the supplement

Why don't you try getting a job that pays as much as you earn now then?

just pointing out the bare facts of the cuts we have had to endure since the last deal the CWU conned delivery postmen into voting for with the help of mail centre staff

[clashcityrocker]

just pointing out the bare facts of the cuts we have had to endure since the last deal the CWU conned delivery postmen into voting for with the help of mail centre staff

Why is it so inconceivable to anyone that:
Delivery staff voted for BT 2010 because they thought it was a good deal?
That D2D into workload should be viewed as a good thing by some?
That the lump sums only played a small part in their decision?
That no deal was voted in without the majority delivery staff and had little or nothing to do with MC staff who have had their own crosses to bear from the MC rationalisation plan.

[Judgee]

just pointing out the bare facts of the cuts we have had to endure since the last deal the CWU conned delivery postmen into voting for with the help of mail centre staff

Why is it so inconceivable to anyone that:
Delivery staff voted for BT 2010 because they thought it was a good deal?
That D2D into workload should be viewed as a good thing by some?
That the lump sums only played a small part in their decision?
That no deal was voted in without the majority delivery staff and had little or nothing to do with MC staff who have had their own crosses to bear from the MC rationalisation plan.

[clashcityrocker]

I have to say if that is the level of your debating ability, it is no wonder you lost the vote on BT 2010.
You seem completely unable to see anyone else's viewpoint and unable to articulate your own viewpoint with any clarity.
Sad really.