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Does Park & Loop work?

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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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Natasha, Midlands wrote:We start our P & L in a couple of weeks its alright looking at the bulky bag now of me and my partners but the drivers packets on the yorks are frightening at the moment. Any tips please?
our revisiom has been put back AGAIN :nana probably wont ever come in...
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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BrokenFlowers wrote:
Natasha, Midlands wrote:We start our P & L in a couple of weeks its alright looking at the bulky bag now of me and my partners but the drivers packets on the yorks are frightening at the moment. Any tips please?
our revisiom has been put back AGAIN :nana probably wont ever come in...
So you've had no money yet then?
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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Been doing it for the last 9 months!! and the answer is NO!!!
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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dvbuk55 wrote:
BrokenFlowers wrote:
Natasha, Midlands wrote:We start our P & L in a couple of weeks its alright looking at the bulky bag now of me and my partners but the drivers packets on the yorks are frightening at the moment. Any tips please?
our revisiom has been put back AGAIN :nana probably wont ever come in...
So you've had no money yet then?
I suppose like a majority of offices then, a savings based revision isn't going to work if the office has already been cut to the bone but then RM can't see that.

Plus, I wouldn't vote on any revision that won't work just for a few quid..........let them put it in by EA I say :Very Happy
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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DGP1 wrote:.......let them put it in by EA I say :Very Happy
But an Area Rep will sign it off over your heads and deny you even the option of a rule 13 ballot. Brilliant. :Very Happy
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
DGP1 wrote:.......let them put it in by EA I say :Very Happy
But an Area Rep will sign it off over your heads and deny you even the option of a rule 13 ballot. Brilliant. :Very Happy
The Area Rep would find himself waking up next to a horses head if he did (that's right, we have a Sarah Jessica Parker look-a-like work in our office :wink: ).

Seriously, it's not up to them, it's up to the unit rep and if they do do it then I would say it would be the end of the union completely in my office.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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DGP1 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
DGP1 wrote:.......let them put it in by EA I say :Very Happy
But an Area Rep will sign it off over your heads and deny you even the option of a rule 13 ballot. Brilliant. :Very Happy
The Area Rep would find himself waking up next to a horses head if he did (that's right, we have a Sarah Jessica Parker look-a-like work in our office :wink: ).

Seriously, it's not up to them, it's up to the unit rep and if they do do it then I would say it would be the end of the union completely in my office.
WHAT union?????????
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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shuffler3 wrote:
DGP1 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
DGP1 wrote:.......let them put it in by EA I say :Very Happy
But an Area Rep will sign it off over your heads and deny you even the option of a rule 13 ballot. Brilliant. :Very Happy
The Area Rep would find himself waking up next to a horses head if he did (that's right, we have a Sarah Jessica Parker look-a-like work in our office :wink: ).

Seriously, it's not up to them, it's up to the unit rep and if they do do it then I would say it would be the end of the union completely in my office.
WHAT union?????????
The one in my office, we've been a strong office but it's hard to continually justify the union when we are screwed at every turn, the area rep signing any agreement over the unit rep would be the end.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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NO it is a total and utter failure let's go back to the old system.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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The sad fact is it could have worked if only RM hadn't been too greedy and expected too much.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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dvbuk55 wrote:The sad fact is it could have worked if only RM hadn't been too greedy and expected too much.
But it has not worked i am not surprised at royalmails greed for that is their bonus culture which should also be ditched.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:The sad fact is it could have worked if only RM hadn't been too greedy and expected too much.
But it has not worked i am not surprised at royalmails greed for that is their bonus culture which should also be ditched.
Well we cannot categorically say it hasn't worked, because less than half off the offices haven't yet had a revision - take london for example - according to dingo 56 out of 108 offices have had revision and only 1 - yep 1- has failed.................I know but those are his figures.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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dvbuk55 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:The sad fact is it could have worked if only RM hadn't been too greedy and expected too much.
But it has not worked i am not surprised at royalmails greed for that is their bonus culture which should also be ditched.
Well we cannot categorically say it hasn't worked, because less than half off the offices haven't yet had a revision - take london for example - according to dingo 56 out of 108 offices have had revision and only 1 - yep 1- has failed.................I know but those are his figures.
Just becuse 1 out of 56 office revisions have failed does not mean the other 55 offices are not bringing mail and or packets back, to me this is a failure even if it is 1 or 5 or 55 packets or 500 letters PARK AND LOOP IS A FAILURE IT IS TIME TO END IT.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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k979aaa wrote: Just because 1 out of 56 office revisions have failed does not mean the other 55 offices are not bringing mail and or packets back, to me this is a failure
No.
It would be a failure if there are no volunteers to clear the cut-offs on overtime.
The "model week" system is designed to "fail".

If the model week has been set too low or there is insufficient appetite in a DO to "flex up" then an office will fail.
Duties being completed on o/t, either by the duty holders or volunteers, is not a sign of failure, it's how the system works.
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Re: Does Park & Loop work?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
k979aaa wrote: Just because 1 out of 56 office revisions have failed does not mean the other 55 offices are not bringing mail and or packets back, to me this is a failure
No.
It would be a failure if there are no volunteers to clear the cut-offs on overtime.
The "model week" system is designed to "fail".

If the model week has been set too low or there is insufficient appetite in a DO to "flex up" then an office will fail.
Duties being completed on o/t, either by the duty holders or volunteers, is not a sign of failure, it's how the system works.
I bet any packets / letter's left in our office will still be there in the morning.