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barneyrotts
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

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i currently have a 12 month reprimand on my record for being off route whilst having a meal break before doing sa overtime.
postietaz
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HEALTH EN SAFTEY
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scum_opg
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

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barneyrotts wrote:i have never been told where a phone number is to contact in emergency or what to do if you have a blowout.
if memory serves me the number is normally in/on the van defect book and there is a number for "postal control" or a brakdown line in your drivers manual...
although most of the guys i worked with stored the number in their own mobiles as it wasnt uncommon for the PHG to have locked the defect book up at the end of his shift.. or not to return it the follwing morning


iirc the correct process is (or was) contact your DOM (if you can get hold of the lazy tw*t) to see if another van can be brought to you for you to complete your duty while another worker waits until the van is recovered and then call postal control/breakdown line or the AA or RAC if your office/area operates that way for wheel changes etc
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

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The phone part of the PDA doesn't work, certainly not on any of the PDA's I've ever used, no PDA phone amd no mobile, what the hell was he supposed to do?
Pat Ostman
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barneyrotts wrote:i currently have a 12 month reprimand on my record for being off route whilst having a meal break before doing sa overtime.
This will be included with the new charge
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

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SexyLegs wrote:The phone part of the PDA doesn't work, certainly not on any of the PDA's I've ever used, no PDA phone amd no mobile, what the hell was he supposed to do?
Have you been shown how to use the phone? i.e. the number to dial to get thru to your office?
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jaylime
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

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I shredded a tyre once coming down off a mountain back to the office,luckily as were such a small office,no manager was about and we know the mech from the garage,so nothing was said. :shhhhh
Himaggen
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

Post by Himaggen »

Gross Misconduct, what a load of codswallop!

What you did was technically commit a criminal offence and possibly breach the Health and Safety at Work Act.

The offences:
  • Criminal
    "The use of a vehicle on the road with defective (or incorrectly inflated) tyres can result in prosecution".
    (Information which is expected to be known by anyone with a driving licence).
  • H&S
    "Take reasonable care not to put other people at risk by your actions"
    (Information which is expected to be known by anyone with appropriate training).
The Manager is no longer in a position to report you to the Police for this offence as all evidence is after-the-fact/hearsay. Their only course of action is to attempt to discipline you under your responsibilities as an Employee under the Health & Safety at Work Act. In order for this to be upheld your Employer would need to provide documentation to show that their responsibility under that Act, to provide you with sufficient training in performing your duties, has been undertaken.

If you believe your Employer has not provided you with the appropriate training in this instance then you have no reason to be intimidated by their threat to discipline you.
barneyrotts
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

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my hearing is next tuesday and i would like to say thank you for all your comments,much appreciated.
ElvisGaddafi
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barneyrotts wrote:my hearing is next tuesday and i would like to say thank you for all your comments,much appreciated.
good luck mate
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krussel
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barneyrotts wrote:my hearing is next tuesday and i would like to say thank you for all your comments,much appreciated.
I would like to also wish you the best luck (not that you should need it) and hope they see sense.

What a bloody pain though, all this stress for a poxy £40 tyre :roll:
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Pat Ostman
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

Post by Pat Ostman »

krussel wrote:
barneyrotts wrote:my hearing is next tuesday and i would like to say thank you for all your comments,much appreciated.
I would like to also wish you the best luck (not that you should need it) and hope they see sense.

What a bloody pain though, all this stress for a poxy £40 tyre :roll:
It's not about the cost of the tyre though is it.

However slow you drive, and too slow is just as dangerous, driving with a shredded tyre and damaged wheel means you do not have control of a ton of steel.

I think some here are missing the point entirely.
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SexyLegs wrote:The phone part of the PDA doesn't work, certainly not on any of the PDA's I've ever used, no PDA phone amd no mobile, what the hell was he supposed to do?
Bollocks, it works on them all, you can only dial 3 or so numbers, the 0800 one that you type your office I'd into to call your office, the RAC and emergency services
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zx135 wrote:
SexyLegs wrote:The phone part of the PDA doesn't work, certainly not on any of the PDA's I've ever used, no PDA phone amd no mobile, what the hell was he supposed to do?
Bollocks, it works on them all, you can only dial 3 or so numbers, the 0800 one that you type your office I'd into to call your office, the RAC and emergency services
But only if you've either been trained in it's use (or have the time to work it out yourself), I don't know how to use either the phone or the sat nav on my PDA because I've never been showed.
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barneyrotts
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Re: i,ve been charged with gross misconduct under the health

Post by barneyrotts »

i,ve never been shown how to operate the phone on my pda either.