coxie wrote:is this phantomshare dude for real.....
He's telling us his opinion just like you do,doesn't make him a manger and it doesnt make you a union fanantic when you tell us your views!!!
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Bloody forums full of mangers and fanantics postman - get rid of em
coxie wrote:is this phantomshare dude for real.....
He's telling us his opinion just like you do,doesn't make him a manger and it doesnt make you a union fanantic when you tell us your views!!!
RULES wrote:Just because someone has a different viewpoint or political position to you, it does not mean that they are a 'Manager' or a 'Union fanatic', any posts making such assumptions or generalisations will be pulled or amended and the poster warned. This also applies to posts that are not aimed at individuals but at groups.
Bloody forums full of mangers and fanantics postman - get rid of em
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coxie wrote:is this phantomshare dude for real.....
He's telling us his opinion just like you do,doesn't make him a manger and it doesnt make you a union fanantic when you tell us your views!!!
RULES wrote:Just because someone has a different viewpoint or political position to you, it does not mean that they are a 'Manager' or a 'Union fanatic', any posts making such assumptions or generalisations will be pulled or amended and the poster warned. This also applies to posts that are not aimed at individuals but at groups.
Bloody forums full of mangers and fanantics postman - get rid of em
There's one now - catch him if you can
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phantomshare wrote:Are you scared of working your hours??
If the answers NO then why are you so scared of this agreement?
No but i'm still scared of this agreement. Because i am scared of working soooooo many off them out on delivery.
a name change may be in order it lumpsums now.
oggie wrote:can i ask what was stopping royal mail from just cancelling the d2d contracts? and then just rebranding them as live mail, putting them in envelopes addressed to the householder.
then they could of got away without paying any supplements.
ermmmmmm the cost!!
just what cost would that be number one, royal mail already has the databases of all addresses of which they own, has the network in place and of course the delivery postperson's to deliver them, the only expense would be the filling and cost of the envelopes, i have been to printer's and mailing house's which have machine's which do this job so there would be a investment needed in the 1st place, but then the saving would be around £2 mil a week, and thats not counting the money royal mail would make from these.
the choice is clear, get it in the workload and get paid a supplement or maybe the above and get paid nothing.
going postal i think you will find PROBABLY royal mail are allowed to do this.
How would they save £2 mil per week,thats what they paid out last year to deliver them.They have to pay for filling and cost of envelope etc.and prob o/t to deliver them,but yes they would make savings.
Instead of asking us to back the CWU, by voting for this deal. What we should be doing, is demanding that the CWU backs it's Members. And tries to protect our T&Cs! There are already a large number of Posties, who work ALL the hours they're paid for. But still can't always complete. But there's no protection in this deal for them. There's vague promises to sort out the workload. But that's insufficient.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
andy2007 wrote:Instead of asking us to back the CWU, by voting for this deal. What we should be doing, is demanding that the CWU backs it's Members. And tries to protect our T&Cs! There are already a large number of Posties, who work ALL the hours they're paid for. But still can't always complete. But there's no protection in this deal for them. There's vague promises to sort out the workload. But that's insufficient.
I don't know if anyone has realised but with the advent of the non specific duty span then anyone who normally books overtime on 3.5 hour delivery is definitely going to be in for a shock. Especially those who still think it is job and finish.
andy2007 wrote:Instead of asking us to back the CWU, by voting for this deal. What we should be doing, is demanding that the CWU backs it's Members. And tries to protect our T&Cs! There are already a large number of Posties, who work ALL the hours they're paid for. But still can't always complete. But there's no protection in this deal for them. There's vague promises to sort out the workload. But that's insufficient.
Spot on
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I am number six wrote:Its the only way you can keep your jobs vote yes and secure your future
its a good deal,in the long run you will be happy
Good 2 liner though its a pity it keeps popping up in the forums without anything more to explain why you hold that view. The No voters seem to explain their reasons for voting No but you merely restate its a good deal but don't explain why, any chance of doing that.
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our rep went to a meeting with dave ward and some others on the pec
came back say deal not as bad as we think as there is no extra money and a no vote cant get any more
i can get more when i start keeping my £3.01 union fees
I am number six wrote:Its the only way you can keep your jobs vote yes and secure your future
its a good deal,in the long run you will be happy
Good 2 liner though its a pity it keeps popping up in the forums without anything more to explain why you hold that view. The No voters seem to explain their reasons for voting No but you merely restate its a good deal but don't explain why, any chance of doing that.
very simple this will enable people to keep in employment
I am number six wrote:Its the only way you can keep your jobs vote yes and secure your future
its a good deal,in the long run you will be happy
Good 2 liner though its a pity it keeps popping up in the forums without anything more to explain why you hold that view. The No voters seem to explain their reasons for voting No but you merely restate its a good deal but don't explain why, any chance of doing that.
very simple this will enable people to keep in employment
How much explaining does that need??
Actually number six - quite a lot of explaining because nowhere in this agreement is employment guaranteed. So without this agreement we will all be on the dole is that it. You may have noticed that the current FT/PT split is 79/21 but by 2013 it is proposed to be 75/25 so for the 4% between the two it will NOT enable people to keep in employment. It is easy for the spin merchants to say things BUT "the words are the words" and those words are the ones that will be applied to the implementation of this agreement.
