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USO Reform Posties Pocket Guide.

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Valentina@1
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Re: USO Reform Posties Pocket Guide.

Post by Valentina@1 »

Alfietherat wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 17:25
twoloops wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 20:22
sindba wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 09:32
Day one, 2 people in a van share clear everything on walks A and B. The third person on their own does 1st class and packets on walks C and D.

What’s happens when you hit time & you still have 4 loops left & the third persons got a three quarter full of tracked packets in his/her van?
If hitting time is end of duty that means it’s time to home 😂
My guess is they will have performance bonus in place,everyone completes,scans etc….
Another way of getting us to “commit to deliver”model 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Valentina@1
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Post by Valentina@1 »

CWU will endorse it 😩💯
Alfietherat
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Re: USO Reform Posties Pocket Guide.

Post by Alfietherat »

Valentina@1 wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 17:39
Alfietherat wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 17:25
twoloops wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 20:22
sindba wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 09:32
Day one, 2 people in a van share clear everything on walks A and B. The third person on their own does 1st class and packets on walks C and D.

What’s happens when you hit time & you still have 4 loops left & the third persons got a three quarter full of tracked packets in his/her van?
If hitting time is end of duty that means it’s time to go home 😂
My guess is they will have performance bonus in place,everyone completes,scans etc….
Another way of getting us to “commit to deliver”model 🤯🤯🤯🤯
yellowbelly
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Post by yellowbelly »

Alfietherat wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 17:27
Unfortunately the Workforce have no idea what is on the Horizon with this new way of working. Ostriche heads in the sand come to mind.
If it's anything like 'Horizon' then we really are f***ed........
TopperGas
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Post by TopperGas »

Alfietherat wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 17:27
Unfortunately the Workforce have no idea what is on the Horizon with this new way of working. Ostriche heads in the sand come to mind.
Most know it will mean delivering double post every day?
Thommo44
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Post by Thommo44 »

scoobydo79 wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 20:00
postmanzach wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 18:10
So far we have heard we (one of the later offices to implement it)
Will do it in stages.
First step is changes all the duties frsmes so they are picked up vertically, is that same elsewhere? Seems like a pointless change.
Vertical frames are being put in place regardless. They want you to get used to the vertical prep thing before you have any other changes put in place.
You would have thought every fitting would have been updated before making them vertical? Everyone is still pulling a bit from here to put with a bit from there. When they added loops a couple of years ago, they just added them to the end
GRS
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Post by GRS »

Thommo44 wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 20:29
scoobydo79 wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 20:00
postmanzach wrote:
04 Jun 2025, 18:10
So far we have heard we (one of the later offices to implement it)
Will do it in stages.
First step is changes all the duties frsmes so they are picked up vertically, is that same elsewhere? Seems like a pointless change.
Vertical frames are being put in place regardless. They want you to get used to the vertical prep thing before you have any other changes put in place.
You would have thought every fitting would have been updated before making them vertical? Everyone is still pulling a bit from here to put with a bit from there. When they added loops a couple of years ago, they just added them to the end
This is the sort of thing that unless you work in a DO you don’t understand. It’s like 2 completely different worlds in RM…..one side of the business has everything wrapped up all nice & tidy in perfect fitting boxes whilst on the shop floor in a DO you fit round pegs in square holes.

I’ve been liaising back & forth with HR through the People app about a couple of hours of outstanding A/L. Their answers are completely unbelievable and at total odds with the real world at the dirty end of the business. I wonder at times if I live in a different universe to all the muppets outside of a DO.
Thommo44
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Post by Thommo44 »

This is the sort of thing that unless you work in a DO you don’t understand. It’s like 2 completely different worlds in RM…..one side of the business has everything wrapped up all nice & tidy in perfect fitting boxes whilst on the shop floor in a DO you fit round pegs in square holes.

I’ve been liaising back & forth with HR through the People app about a couple of hours of outstanding A/L. Their answers are completely unbelievable and at total odds with the real world at the dirty end of the business. I wonder at times if I live in a different universe to all the muppets outside of a DO.
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Which of these worlds is the CWU in? Surely now is the time for them to speak up
Mr Rush
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GRS wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 22:03
Their answers are completely unbelievable and at total odds with the real world at the dirty end of the business. I wonder at times if I live in a different universe to all the muppets outside of a DO.
They believe they are in the real world and it is you that is watching shadows on the cave wall. I think we've reached the point where two decades of garbage data has led to numerous fatal assumptions which look set, in a rational world, to render the ODM a non-starter. Though like any sociopath, it will be easier to make reality conform to their delusion than admit they are wrong.

I've yet to see this booklet, much as I would love to see it purely for the novelty of laying eyes upon any kind of evidence that some kind of coherent plan is actually being offered up.
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TopperGas
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Post by TopperGas »

Mr Rush wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 17:06
GRS wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 22:03
Their answers are completely unbelievable and at total odds with the real world at the dirty end of the business. I wonder at times if I live in a different universe to all the muppets outside of a DO.
They believe they are in the real world and it is you that is watching shadows on the cave wall. I think we've reached the point where two decades of garbage data has led to numerous fatal assumptions which look set, in a rational world, to render the ODM a non-starter. Though like any sociopath, it will be easier to make reality conform to their delusion than admit they are wrong.

I've yet to see this booklet, much as I would love to see it purely for the novelty of laying eyes upon any kind of evidence that some kind of coherent plan is actually being offered up.
It's not a booklet just a PDF print off off a screenshot from RM's presentation, the one showing "Eve"covering all the packets for 6 days. It's not even been updated to show "Eve" now swaps with "Ahmed" and the other posties to save in fatigue.

I was thinking yesterday whilst covering double post on a duty, aren't the CWU supposed to support their members if so, shouldn't they be speaking up saying covering double/triple post is not practical rather than seemingly agreeing it is possible to deliver so much post 5 days a week?
menditsa
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Post by menditsa »

TopperGas wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 19:35
Mr Rush wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 17:06
GRS wrote:
09 Jun 2025, 22:03
Their answers are completely unbelievable and at total odds with the real world at the dirty end of the business. I wonder at times if I live in a different universe to all the muppets outside of a DO.
They believe they are in the real world and it is you that is watching shadows on the cave wall. I think we've reached the point where two decades of garbage data has led to numerous fatal assumptions which look set, in a rational world, to render the ODM a non-starter. Though like any sociopath, it will be easier to make reality conform to their delusion than admit they are wrong.

I've yet to see this booklet, much as I would love to see it purely for the novelty of laying eyes upon any kind of evidence that some kind of coherent plan is actually being offered up.
It's not a booklet just a PDF print off off a screenshot from RM's presentation, the one showing "Eve"covering all the packets for 6 days. It's not even been updated to show "Eve" now swaps with "Ahmed" and the other posties to save in fatigue.

I was thinking yesterday whilst covering double post on a duty, aren't the CWU supposed to support their members if so, shouldn't they be speaking up saying covering double/triple post is not practical rather than seemingly agreeing it is possible to deliver so much post 5 days a week?
Stop telling porkies, it is a booklet, here it is.

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A2B
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Post by A2B »

menditsa wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 22:43

Stop telling porkies, it is a booklet, here it is.
That is a a different layout to the one previously posted, and the first time I've seen it in printed form
ted_e_bear
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Post by ted_e_bear »

Looks like Ahmed and Bob are shafted walking full duties every weekday they attend (they can both drive as they're both down to do parcels Saturday) whilst Evie gets to do parcels every day, presumably that would be tweaked.
claretandblue
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Post by claretandblue »

ted_e_bear wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 14:36
Looks like Ahmed and Bob are shafted walking full duties every weekday they attend (they can both drive as they're both down to do parcels Saturday) whilst Evie gets to do parcels every day, presumably that would be tweaked.
That's been changed to walking one day, driving one day, unless you're a non driver and it's permanent walking.
Mr Rush
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menditsa wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 22:43
Stop telling porkies, it is a booklet, here it is.
"How it works": Has that been substantiated by the pilots yet? :hmmmm
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