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Parcels through the roof!!

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Mazdaman
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Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Mazdaman »

kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
Mr Rush
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Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 14:27
Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Mr Rush »

Mr Rush wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 17:22
If volumes exceed the current level then we'll be forced to do the unthinkable and start failing Tracked.
Some duties are now being instructed to prioritise T24 over 48. I don't think RM2000 frames were designed with a 600% call rate in mind.
The machine stops.
Sean06
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Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Sean06 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 17:54
ted_e_bear wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 13:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 07:37
Don't know if it's just a case of more direct yorks to DOs (which go straight from the artic to the lorry going to the DO), but it seems like parcels aren't as busy as they used to be. We don't seem to have so many setups for sorting packets, especially small packets
Certainly business as usual here as far as the amount is concerned, can you tell by the labels on the Yorks ? They usually go straight in the recycling bin but I'll try have a look out of interest for you on Monday if you can tell the difference.
The direct ones should be purple and white with your DO named on them.
With plenty of missorts in them.
Smoothbackground
Posts: 1263
Joined: 21 Sep 2023, 20:01
Gender: Female

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Smoothbackground »

Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
Jb1969
Posts: 377
Joined: 29 May 2014, 13:06
Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Jb1969 »

Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
They are Smooth, RM has a retention rate of 75/100 leaving before 3 months of newbies on the new contract.
I am afraid your wise words of wisdom don’t stack up against the stats.
But you do make me laugh.
Smoothbackground
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Joined: 21 Sep 2023, 20:01
Gender: Female

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Smoothbackground »

Jb1969 wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:22
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
They are Smooth, RM has a retention rate of 75/100 leaving before 3 months of newbies on the new contract.
I am afraid your wise words of wisdom don’t stack up against the stats.
But you do make me laugh.
My payslip screenshot will follow on 31 Dec to back up my stats, but for now please back up your own stats.

What is your source for your very specific statistic of 75% leaving within three months? Cite the source material, please.
BELIAL
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Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by BELIAL »

Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
Fill in the blanks.
What a ****** **** *** *********** ****** **** **** *** * *********** ****.
Bye
Jb1969
Posts: 377
Joined: 29 May 2014, 13:06
Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Jb1969 »

Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:37
Jb1969 wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:22
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
They are Smooth, RM has a retention rate of 75/100 leaving before 3 months of newbies on the new contract.
I am afraid your wise words of wisdom don’t stack up against the stats.
But you do make me laugh.
My payslip screenshot will follow on 31 Dec to back up my stats, but for now please back up your own stats.

What is your source for your very specific statistic of 75% leaving within three months? Cite the source material, please.
It’s an average, I have seen the stats from 6 Counties.
Some are slightly higher, some lower.
But newbies are no longer getting uniform when they start, just a storm proof coat.
Why would RM do that, you can answer that question & I will look forward to that!
Smoothbackground
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Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Smoothbackground »

BELIAL wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 20:10
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
Fill in the blanks.
What a ****** **** *** *********** ****** **** **** *** * *********** ****.
Sorry, I’m not a mindreader and so won’t waste my time. Bet you’re a bad driver.
Smoothbackground
Posts: 1263
Joined: 21 Sep 2023, 20:01
Gender: Female

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Smoothbackground »

Jb1969 wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 20:18
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:37
Jb1969 wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:22
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
They are Smooth, RM has a retention rate of 75/100 leaving before 3 months of newbies on the new contract.
I am afraid your wise words of wisdom don’t stack up against the stats.
But you do make me laugh.
My payslip screenshot will follow on 31 Dec to back up my stats, but for now please back up your own stats.

What is your source for your very specific statistic of 75% leaving within three months? Cite the source material, please.
It’s an average, I have seen the stats from 6 Counties.
Some are slightly higher, some lower.
But newbies are no longer getting uniform when they start, just a storm proof coat.
Why would RM do that, you can answer that question & I will look forward to that!
Oh, so you’ve seen the stats, have you? Direct us all to them then, please. With all respect, I’d rather not just take your word for it.
yellowbelly
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Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by yellowbelly »

Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:37

My payslip screenshot will follow on 31 Dec to back up my stats, ............
...........
No need - we get it. You do you and let others do themselves.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Acca Dacca »

Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:37
Jb1969 wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:22
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
They are Smooth, RM has a retention rate of 75/100 leaving before 3 months of newbies on the new contract.
I am afraid your wise words of wisdom don’t stack up against the stats.
But you do make me laugh.
My payslip screenshot will follow on 31 Dec to back up my stats, but for now please back up your own stats.

What is your source for your very specific statistic of 75% leaving within three months? Cite the source material, please.
Think hes got his stat a bit mixed up;

Martin Walsh said it was just over 25% of new entrants leaving left within the first 90 days and 17% of those employed since Dec 2022 have left the business.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Mr Rush
Posts: 3069
Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 14:27
Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Mr Rush »

Acca Dacca wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 20:44
Think hes got his stat a bit mixed up;

Martin Walsh said it was just over 25% of new entrants leaving left within the first 90 days and 17% of those employed since Dec 2022 have left the business.
From the LTB in September:
POSTMAN wrote:
06 Sep 2024, 16:07
There are circa 17,000 new entrants who have joined Royal Mail since 1st December 2022. Current attrition rates for new entrants are at 16% nationally but is much higher in certain areas. In addition, up to 25% of new entrants who leave Royal Mail do so within 90 days of joining.
The machine stops.
menditsa
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Joined: 22 Jun 2024, 08:06
Gender: Male

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by menditsa »

I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).
Assuming you are on a the new contract of 30 hours and on £14.78ph like me you're doing a 12 hour day compared to my 7 hour day.
We must bow down to you for earning £52K a year in such a menial job.

If you are are on the lower rate @£12.78 then you are doing a 14 hour day over 5 days.

You crack on and earn that grand a week I'm happy with £590 and a life.
Smoothbackground
Posts: 1263
Joined: 21 Sep 2023, 20:01
Gender: Female

Re: Parcels through the roof!!

Post by Smoothbackground »

Acca Dacca wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 20:44
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:37
Jb1969 wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:22
Smoothbackground wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 19:02
Mazdaman wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 18:17
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Dec 2024, 05:37
Shirtbuttons wrote:
13 Dec 2024, 19:48
Do you actually realise what the ot rate is per hour after tax?
Pittance?
My daughter is 18 and works in a cafe during uni . She is on 11 75. an hour . I feel embarrassed to tell her what we get. Many people at mine have worked their day off and come payday said never again. Back in dickension Britain. We live in a bubble and don't realise what's going on in the outside world. You could never support a family.
You speak some truth. But perhaps you do indeed live in a bubble and don’t realise what is going on in the outside world. Even on the paltry new-entrant Ts and Cs — on which I myself am employed — this job pays far more than any other unskilled job out there. I’m quite happy earning almost a grand a week over christmas (with a good measure of ot).

But It is grim outside the bubble, trust me. Families bringing in £80k pa are finding things tough and finding it impossible to support their families. It is a country-wide problem called the cost-of-living crisis.

Does your daughter’s cafe employer provide her with a similar pension to your RM one? Does she receive six months’ full pay in the event of sickness etc?? Don’t think so.

You’re comparing apples with pears, mate. If you’re that embarrassed with your lot, why not go and work in a cafe yourself? Someone else will gladly fill your RM boots…
They are Smooth, RM has a retention rate of 75/100 leaving before 3 months of newbies on the new contract.
I am afraid your wise words of wisdom don’t stack up against the stats.
But you do make me laugh.
My payslip screenshot will follow on 31 Dec to back up my stats, but for now please back up your own stats.

What is your source for your very specific statistic of 75% leaving within three months? Cite the source material, please.
Think hes got his stat a bit mixed up;

Martin Walsh said it was just over 25% of new entrants leaving left within the first 90 days and 17% of those employed since Dec 2022 have left the business.
Yes, 25% would seem to me to be in the right ballpark, I agree.

But unlike you and me, JB has seen the stats — he has explicitly said so above. I would like him to provide those stats and to provide us with a hyperlink to, or a screenshot from, same.