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Will van sharing be phased out?

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Rommagic
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Rommagic »

More vans cost money and the parking of them is not easy.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Rommagic wrote: ↑
30 Jan 2021, 10:25
More vans cost money and the parking of them is not easy.
I think more importantly a company's carbon footprint will be under greater scrutiny in the next 10 years probably with tax breaks to incentivise reduction.

Unless these extra vans are electric (costly) I doubt increasing the fleet considerably is a direction the business wants to go in the future.
Only dead fish follow the current
scoobydo79
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

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martjohn1 wrote: ↑
28 Jan 2021, 13:48
I am currently using my electric bike to arrive at my first delivery point.I meet with my driver on the way round leaving my bike at a secure location near my start point.Without it would be a half hour walk or two busses.Twice a week...Monday ,Tues the duty is lapsed and i am treated as a reserve....so it becomes a lottery.
Happy days
Not allowed. Have Your union and boss not told You this?
Coffee lover
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Coffee lover »

scoobydo79 wrote: ↑
30 Jan 2021, 13:55
martjohn1 wrote: ↑
28 Jan 2021, 13:48
I am currently using my electric bike to arrive at my first delivery point.I meet with my driver on the way round leaving my bike at a secure location near my start point.Without it would be a half hour walk or two busses.Twice a week...Monday ,Tues the duty is lapsed and i am treated as a reserve....so it becomes a lottery.
Happy days
Not allowed. Have Your union and boss not told You this?
The boss will be our boss and seemingly most managers they couldn’t care less if it makes it easy to get the job done they will turn a blind eye,weve literally had guys coming into work in the car and taking parcels and Mail out in the car and the manager has seen this! Manager himself has taken guys out with HCT to the first delivery point to avoid a half an hour walk I have actually complained about this but he says don’t worry about it the vans are clean then we leave the windows open it’s not a major problem LOL.A couple of weeks ago my regular partner was off and the guy I work with said he would take his car out and meet me on delivery he then proceeded to put the packages and parcels in the car and drive off I said you’re not supposed to do that he just said don’t worry about it it’s not your problem he said there’s no way I’m walking half an hour to my first delivery point and I just do the round on my own I just pick the bags up from the van trouble is this is wrong but management don’t care as it saving over time and this will go on and on like everything else it’s ignored by management
DGH
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by DGH »

Rommagic wrote: ↑
30 Jan 2021, 10:25
More vans cost money and the parking of them is not easy.
This is true.

One solution would be two shifts on delivery, allowing the vans to be used twice as long each day. There are currently some logistical barriers to that, but a reform of the USO could potentially allow a 8-1 delivery followed by a 2-7 delivery. To an extent a precedent for this exists with LATs and Covid-related afternoon deliveries. This wouldn't double capacity as collections and LATs would still use some of the vans, but it'd increase capacity by over 50%.

Best thing to do about this is (obviously) for us all to go into denial and say it couldn't possibly ever happen and even if it could the union would never agree it . . .
Cucumber
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Cucumber »

I get that we are in exceptional times, but just about 11 months into this, huge numbers of people getting buses, taxis (yes!), walking 2 miles, using OMV to start their delivery is frankly embarrassing for a huge company like RM.
But then again, when we had the union have secret talks about trying to bring back shared vans last September nothing surprises me anymore.
scoobydo79
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

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Seriously.What will happen to the guy who has his car broken into and at least 6 pouches of mail and 8 specials stolen plus the dozen tracked parcels? Also the guy on His electric bike who goes over the handlebars while cycling out to his first loop and breaks both arms and collar bones?Why the F are You doing it? :arrrghhh
Coffee lover
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

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scoobydo79 wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 14:20
Seriously.What will happen to the guy who has his car broken into and at least 6 pouches of mail and 8 specials stolen plus the dozen tracked parcels? Also the guy on His electric bike who goes over the handlebars while cycling out to his first loop and breaks both arms and collar bones?Why the F are You doing it? :arrrghhh
Let’s be realistic the chances are very low, and just like Covidiots they are just thinking of themselves and couldn’t care about the consequences
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Coffee lover wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 15:24
scoobydo79 wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 14:20
Seriously.What will happen to the guy who has his car broken into and at least 6 pouches of mail and 8 specials stolen plus the dozen tracked parcels? Also the guy on His electric bike who goes over the handlebars while cycling out to his first loop and breaks both arms and collar bones?Why the F are You doing it? :arrrghhh
Let’s be realistic the chances are very low, and just like Covidiots they are just thinking of themselves and couldn’t care about the consequences

The chances are far higher that someone will grass him up.
That's the real risk.
That's how 90% of sackings for this kind of thing happen.
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Zicomurphy
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Zicomurphy »

scoobydo79 wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 14:20
Seriously.What will happen to the guy who has his car broken into and at least 6 pouches of mail and 8 specials stolen plus the dozen tracked parcels? Also the guy on His electric bike who goes over the handlebars while cycling out to his first loop and breaks both arms and collar bones?Why the F are You doing it? :arrrghhh
Not just the guy using his car. If you’re the driver of the van and have signed to use the van surely you will be the one held responsible for the security of the mail in that vehicle. If you allow your partner to take work from the van and put it in their private vehicle you’re probably leaving yourself wide open to dismissal too.
andyman606
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by andyman606 »

Enough with this don't share vans don't use your own vehicles don't be stupid or put yourself at risk of losing your job over these issues stop it now!!! DO NOT USE YOUR OWN VEHICLES END OF......enjoy the rest of the weekend whilst we still have a bit of it left!👍
Seymour Buts
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Seymour Buts »

People using their own cars at our place but under strict instructions it's only to the first delivery point. Quite a nice earner for some apparently with the allowence you get.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Seymour Buts wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 18:14
People using their own cars at our place but under strict instructions it's only to the first delivery point. Quite a nice earner for some apparently with the allowence you get.
They probably need additional car insurance as normal car insurance is normally "to your regular place of work"
scoobydo79
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by scoobydo79 »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 20:35
Seymour Buts wrote: ↑
31 Jan 2021, 18:14
People using their own cars at our place but under strict instructions it's only to the first delivery point. Quite a nice earner for some apparently with the allowence you get.
They probably need additional car insurance as normal car insurance is normally "to your regular place of work"
RM is covering them for it but only third party I believe.
Marshamp11
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Re: Will van sharing be phased out?

Post by Marshamp11 »

But who covers the the Public Liability insurance. Mmmmm.