Saturday's d2ds

[deanyboy]

I just wish I could read what the official rules are on all of this.
So myself and others are not getting f****d off by it all.
There should be one rule for all offices.

[POSTMAN]

I just wish I could read what the official rules are on all of this.
So myself and others are not getting f****d off by it all.
There should be one rule for all offices.

Again you need to get hold of the rep,there 'should' be a local agreement on how you do them.

Most seem to do a row or column a day.

[cyberheater]

I just wish I could read what the official rules are on all of this.
So myself and others are not getting f****d off by it all.
There should be one rule for all offices.

Whatever the local agreement is. They are to be done in WORK TIME. Not your own time.

Speak to your union rep as quick as possible. Those so called managers are taking the piss in your office.

[pgtips]

I just wish I could read what the official rules are on all of this.
So myself and others are not getting f****d off by it all.
There should be one rule for all offices.

Pretty sure the agreement is to deliver 1/6th per day & there's so many mins allocated per contract built into the prep time for this but the dom wont tell you this & D2D are classed as live mail so taking them home to prep is a big a no-no

[eastie]

Putting the D2D's in the slots first is a waste of time and also slows you up big time on throwing off or bundling up especially if you have lots of double slots.
I always put them in bundles of 20 at the back of each bundle taking out one per house, simples.

[hampshireman]

Putting the D2D's in the slots first is a waste of time and also slows you up big time on throwing off or bundling up especially if you have lots of double slots.
I always put them in bundles of 20 at the back of each bundle taking out one per house, simples.

Not allowed to do that.

[eastie]

Why not?

[hampshireman]

Why not?

Because you are , by the rules, meant to put the D2D's in after the mail is in the frame.It's in the agreement.

Now whether the agreement means anything is another matter.

Nor are you allowed to 'nest'

Sometimes I despair that we have an agreement the we decide not to follow it ... and then f**king moan when things dont meet our 'needs'

In my office we still have ghost overtime. How does that effing work?

[fishtank]

Three reasons.
The first is that management believe it adds non-value time at the door.
The second is that it means there is no control process for determining how much is done each day.
Thirdly because they say so.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Why not?

Because you are , by the rules, meant to put the D2D's in after the mail is in the frame.It's in the agreement.

Now whether the agreement means anything is another matter.

Nor are you allowed to 'nest'

Sometimes I despair that we have an agreement the we decide not to follow it ... and then f**king moan when things dont meet our 'needs'

In my office we still have ghost overtime. How does that effing work?

Actually you MAY BE allowed to - this is also in the BT2010 agreement.

Whilst the planned workload will be spread across the 6 days, delivery employees will have the ability to manage the delivery of the items themselves on the proviso that all items are delivered within the week and the delivery specification is not affected.

[fishtank]

Says in the nationally agreed D2D docs...

• Note: D2D items should not be merged with other mails at the doorstep

[eastie]

Says in the nationally agreed D2D docs...

• Note: D2D items should not be merged with other mails at the doorstep

I've found it stops mail from getting caught up in D2D's especially with double slots, can't see the logic in not letting you do it at the doorstep .
Plus there are other advantages I found especially with rain you can take a few out of the trolley at a time rather than having a whole bundle with thrown off D2D's that end up like papier mache nearing the end of the bundle.
I mentioned it at WTL and my DOM doesn't have a problem with it

[marlboroman]

We have been doing these things for bloody years and we still dont know what we are doing.
Just about sums this job up. A bloody joke.

[jw1234]

We have been doing these things for bloody years and we still dont know what we are doing.
Just about sums this job up. A bloody joke.

That being said its not rocket science, put put some leaflets through a door.

I like being able to make my own mind up.

[RedBagMan]

I do love all this cr*p which includes phrases like "local agreement", "BT2010 agreement" ... in fact anything with the word "agreement" in it.

Have I actually "agreed" to anything (maybe by signing a contract, it's in the "small print" - a bit like PPI) ??

I think I've realised what's missing after all these years (OK 2.5 of the damn things)

A User Manual - so EVERYBODY knows EXACTLY what the score is ... not just for D2Ds, but for everything ... cutting off, docket, you name it - why the hell should any worker have to find out "the right way to do stuff" by trial and (more often) error - and a user manual that can be pulled out at any time to ensure that a postie is NOT being taken for a ride by management - witnesss the shambles of the docket over Christmas - this sort of stuff should be in black and white and legally binding on both sides