Car sharing. Can you take the car home?

[andy2007]

Now there's an interesting thought by guv.
Say your start time is 6,but you have to get in the van at 5:30 to get to work,there's 30mins there and another 30mins back,that is an hr!
Then there is the 15mins van check every morning that is a conduct issue if it is not done and stuff is wrong with the van,who's going to help us with that?
And what if somethings wrong with it?

I can just imagine me mrs in her winceyette and curlers helping me out
Brakes working love?
Yes
Indicators?
Yes,no yes no....

Tbf though some of the car user would jump at the chance to take one home.

No, your Duty time should still start when you get into work. Taking the van Home is a perk, and shouldn't be considered to be part of your Duty. Otherwise, it wouldn't be fair, considering the varying travel times that some have. It could be as little as 10 minutes down the road, or an hours commute. But you're right about the van checks, considering that they should be done before you take it out on the roads, and not when you arrive in the van. What we need is an agreement, which states that RM will pay you the 15 mins for checking it before you set off from Home. You could, for example sign something to state that you completed the checks when you arrive at work.

[dblad]

I thought a lot of posties were objecting to working in vans, if thats so then why are you helping RM out by taking them home, at our place they told us we were having them but cos there's no place to park them overnight we would have to take them home, we refused so now unless they spend money on somewhere for them to be parked they can't bring them in.

[fishtank]

How would drivers feel about picking others up in the morning?
Parking space will be an issue with the new vans.....it would save members money.....it's win/win almost....just a thought.

[Geezer]

Now there's an interesting thought by guv.
Say your start time is 6,but you have to get in the van at 5:30 to get to work,there's 30mins there and another 30mins back,that is an hr!
Then there is the 15mins van check every morning that is a conduct issue if it is not done and stuff is wrong with the van,who's going to help us with that?
And what if somethings wrong with it?

I can just imagine me mrs in her winceyette and curlers helping me out
Brakes working love?
Yes
Indicators?
Yes,no yes no....

Tbf though some of the car user would jump at the chance to take one home.

No, your Duty time should still start when you get into work. Taking the van Home is a perk, and shouldn't be considered to be part of your Duty. Otherwise, it wouldn't be fair, considering the varying travel times that some have. It could be as little as 10 minutes down the road, or an hours commute. But you're right about the van checks, considering that they should be done before you take it out on the roads, and not when you arrive in the van. What we need is an agreement, which states that RM will pay you the 15 mins for checking it before you set off from Home. You could, for example sign something to state that you completed the checks when you arrive at work.

No, your Duty time should still start when you get into work. Taking the van Home is a perk, and shouldn't be considered to be part of your Duty.

If it is Classed as a perk then the Taxman would want to Tax you as such, would'nt he....OVER TO FISHTANK

[fishtank]

Well you only need to take a look up and down your street to see we are not alone in taking the vans home.
Many companies do this now because it saves space and more importantly from our point of view it saves employees money.
I don't see a problem with it as long as a proper risk assessment is done and there is no comeback on members if some knobhead damages or steals the van.
If this was the worst part about park&loop i'd be delighted.

[POSTMAN]

You won't pay any tax if you take a CDV home.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 75#p286070" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Geezer]

You won't pay any tax if you take a CDV home.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 75#p286070" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Seen that Postman

What i was trying to get at is if they claim we don't start work till we get to the DO, then it is Private use as such till we arrive.Now if they say no you are working as soon as you get in tne van to come to work, Then as was said earlier
they should start to pay you as soon as you leave home.

[andy2007]

I'm not sure why it's not taxed as a perk. But my previous Employer used to let a couple of the lads take pool cars Home, because they didn't have cars of their own (they were 18). They never paid any tax on them, and the link that Postman provided confirms it. But you can't possibly be considered to be on your Duty, whilst you're commuting. That simply doesn't make sense. And it'd be incredibly unfair too.

[eian687]

AS YOU SAY ANDY IT IS UN FAIR
in our office atleast 4 take vans home 1 lives 2 streets from office another within walking distance and the 2 that live the furthest away are not allowed to take vans home.................double standards or a case of there faces not fitting in