Just_My_Opinion wrote:So erm when is dingo, lovejoy, big daz or The Truth going to comment and try and justify Royal Mail's interpretation on the agreement?
I wasnt aware I had a obligation to justify it
Im just a local rep in medium small D.O not a PEC members or HQ officer.
Im far more interessed in my members than RM briefings to their managers.
What is it about RML "interpretation" that differs from the proposed agreement?
Are you saying RML "interpretation" is wrong? Please do tell what the correct "interpretation" is?
happymackem wrote:vote no,no,no a million times NO
If Managers give this Briefing I think they will persuade a lot more people to vote NO.
Managers wont be giving this briefing, its a brefing for managers.
managers would only inform us of this after a yes vote.
i think your going to hear about this in this weeks WTL, the whole thing stinks its just opened the doors to bully boy tatics and ex action ,this is not what i went on strike for!!!!!!!!what the f**k have they done to us this is a big no no from me they must think we are all f***ing muppets i just hope everyone will see the big picture and not see ££££££££££ or we are in s**t up to our necks. are careing employer has no idea what effect this will have on a lot of people not just a sat im talking everyday ,a lot have child care issues im one, it will cost me a f***ing lot of coin to get child care i did not come into the rm for a 9-5 job im so f****d off with it all!!!! at the end of the day my health and my family come first not this poxy job and i dont trust any side in all of this the cwu has sold us and the rm well they always do what they want in one way or another, its time again to stand up and be counted and fight againt this sham if you say yes well on your head be it
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MinisterofCucumber wrote:Any unit reps who have been invited to the roadshow should print off a copy of this and confront the speakers.
If it gets lively we might get some mobile phone footage on youtube.
this is what im talking about i think the cwu have been everywhere on there so called roadshow and then you see this s**t there has not even been a vote yet do royal mail really think this deal is that good they really need to wake up its a sham from start to finish
MinisterofCucumber wrote:Any unit reps who have been invited to the roadshow should print off a copy of this and confront the speakers.
If it gets lively we might get some mobile phone footage on youtube.
this is what im talking about i think the cwu have been everywhere on there so called roadshow and then you see this s**t there has not even been a vote yet do royal mail really think this deal is that good they really need to wake up its a sham from start to finish
I have a briefing in York 2morrow will take it with me
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Just_My_Opinion wrote:So erm when is dingo, lovejoy, big daz or The Truth going to comment and try and justify Royal Mail's interpretation on the agreement?
I wasnt aware I had a obligation to justify it
Im just a local rep in medium small D.O not a PEC members or HQ officer.
Im far more interessed in my members than RM briefings to their managers.
What is it about RML "interpretation" that differs from the proposed agreement?
Are you saying RML "interpretation" is wrong? Please do tell what the correct "interpretation" is?
Firstly thanks TBT,got the document
Have to agree with you that it looks pretty much like what the CWU outlined in the letter to members.
Though why HQ and apparently you think we should vote for a deal that includes retiring at 65 and no max delivery span amazes me.
viking1488 wrote:
i think your going to hear about this in this weeks WTL, the whole thing stinks its just opened the doors to bully boy tatics and ex action ,this is not what i went on strike for!!!!!!!!what the f**k have they done to us this is a big no no from me they must think we are all f***ing muppets i just hope everyone will see the big picture and not see ££££££££££ or we are in s**t up to our necks. are careing employer has no idea what effect this will have on a lot of people not just a sat im talking everyday ,a lot have child care issues im one, it will cost me a f***ing lot of coin to get child care i did not come into the rm for a 9-5 job im so f****d off with it all!!!! at the end of the day my health and my family come first not this poxy job and i dont trust any side in all of this the cwu has sold us and the rm well they always do what they want in one way or another, its time again to stand up and be counted and fight againt this sham if you say yes well on your head be it
I don't think you'll get this version, they'll be focusing on lump sums and reduced working week.
Steviea34 wrote:
I have tried to explain this on other threads, but I'll try
again- the top 10 percent is based on similarily made up offices
& compared to each other,
So in one office staff will be 'encouraged' to rush round and get done early and given sweeteners like early home, or 1 in 3 Sats off, or ghost OT. The other 9 offices in the area will be given no sweeteners and told they have to perform to the standards of this 'model' office (where a lot of them are bribed to rush round) or face the sack. Great tool, guaranteed to create a climate of fear and management bully boys. A rush-your-delivery charter. Top 10% is the nail in the coffin for doing the job right.
Unfortunately mate, its similarily made up offices, not the same area offices , so the benchmark maybe 50 miles away
I think BD is looking for a career change - perhaps into the engineering section that appears to be opening up to mature entrants, or maybe not, maybe he feels this agreement IS the answer to creating a WMC - though it might help if we got the customer to pay a realistic price for DSA and the pension fund was made solvent, but hey lets get the proles to pay.
this is a big no no from me they must think we are all f***ing muppets 
i just hope everyone will see the big picture and not see ££££££££££ or we are in s**t up to our necks. are careing employer has no idea what effect this will have on a lot of people not just a sat im talking everyday ,a lot have child care issues im one, it will cost me a f***ing lot of coin to get child care i did not come into the rm for a 9-5 job im so f****d off with it all!!!! at the end of the day my health and my family come first not this poxy job and i dont trust any side in all of this the cwu has sold us and the rm well they always do what they want in one way or another, its time again to stand up and be counted and fight againt this sham if you say yes well on your head be it 
