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The importance of the first step

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
A2B
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Re: The importance of the first step

Post by A2B »

Jonathan Alsatian wrote:
Today, 03:30
If the ballet result is a NO then RM will walk away from the table and equalisation will never happen. It really is that simple. Its a crap deal but at least there is a commitment to a further step and timetable in January.
You have faith in the timetable for further talks? we've been here many times before and it gets lost in the ether

I personally feel there will never be equalisation in the way that you hope, the new and old terms will get closer because the old terms will be negotiated away.

The CWU know their core members are dwindling and the only way to survive is to try and recruit new members and are going all out to do that while losing focus on the workers who have funded the union for years.
Sean06
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Re: The importance of the first step

Post by Sean06 »

A2B wrote:
Today, 00:45
Sean06 wrote:
Yesterday, 17:44
A2B wrote:
Yesterday, 11:36
Sean06 wrote:
Yesterday, 11:09
raXor wrote:
Yesterday, 09:57
The below are the only steps you need to follow if you're on a new contract and in the union:

1. Vote 'NO'
2. Cancel union membership.
Should have added (are you prepared to go on strike).
Why? There's no vote for strike action

This is a vote on a proposed change in working methods that's it
So what happens if new starters vote NO im just asking will they be prepared to go on strike hoping for a better deal.
Are you suggesting the CWU are prepared to ballot for strike action when it's a no vote?

The CWU have said it's the best deal they can get so will they go back to RM when it comes back as a vote not to accept RM's proposal?

All CWU members are being given an opportunity to vote, but from what the CWU are saying there is no solution when the vote comes to reject the proposal
I am talking about new starters.
Sean06
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Re: The importance of the first step

Post by Sean06 »

Saturn1 wrote:
Yesterday, 20:28
Sean06 wrote:
Yesterday, 17:46
Saturn1 wrote:
Yesterday, 17:07
Seems laughable that 6 months ago the talk was about improving overtime rates, now people are expected to vote for a deal that sacrifices their overtime rate in favour of a paltry rise to basic pay.

Where is the consistency and joined up thinking, no wonder RM act with a level of impunity now.
Pay an ot rates have nothing to do with what we are voting on.pay is separate.
For somebody who defends the union at every step you'd think you'd know that new entrants are voting on the 1.75% pay increase and removal of the 1.25x OT uplift.
Yes new entrants are legacy staff are not.