I prefer the great Stan Laurel’s version; ‘ You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.’TrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025, 19:57This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
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HTPostman
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Re: Lost Special
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.
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scoobydo79
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Re: Lost Special
You probably just put it through the door.TooManyLoops wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025, 21:04No update, nothing has been said, and I didn't find it
I handed a packet to the address today, I was half expecting them to ask about it, but nothing
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TooManyLoops
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Re: Lost Special
Sort of an update?
Saturday, an SD for the same address, looked exactly like the one I had lost/misplaced
I thought, oh it's turned up, so I checked the tracking, sent on Friday
Must be a replacement! But, nothing said about the other one
Saturday, an SD for the same address, looked exactly like the one I had lost/misplaced
I thought, oh it's turned up, so I checked the tracking, sent on Friday
Must be a replacement! But, nothing said about the other one
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Barnacle
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- Location: Earth
Re: Lost Special
Either, someone else found it and delivered it or, it contains drugs so they’re not going to chase mislaid packagesTooManyLoops wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025, 20:35Sort of an update?
Saturday, an SD for the same address, looked exactly like the one I had lost/misplaced![]()
I thought, oh it's turned up, so I checked the tracking, sent on Friday![]()
Must be a replacement! But, nothing said about the other one![]()
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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tramssirhc
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Re: Lost Special
Unions can and do discipline members. The CWU operates the archaic 'branching' system where members who don't do as their told get disciplined. The rulebook allows members to be disciplined and expelled.TrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025, 19:57I’m intrigued by your perspective. The CWU is a voluntarily joined organisation that provides invaluable guidance and negotiates on behalf of its members, whether advocating for an individual or representing the entire workforce, including non-members. Notably, their literature does not claim any disciplinary authority over members, even when they choose to ignore the union's advice. This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.tramssirhc wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025, 16:12
The CWU let's it's members do whatever they want despite knowing full well what that means when things go wrong. So yeah, the CWU is to blame.
The CWU guides, negotiates and represents it's members, no one else. Some of the agreements it negotiates cover matters that govern the contracts of all workers. No union, or at the least a proper trade union, represents non-members.
Let's be clear. It's a dereliction of duty to stand by and watch members put themselves in danger. In fact it's a breach of contract to stand by and watch anyone do anything they shouldn't. All workers are duty bound to speak up and speak out.
So yeah. Every time they CWU rep stands there and says nothing, it is the CWU's fault. That's collective responsibility for you. The same collective responsibility the CWU uses to branch it's members when they won't do what the 'collective' agreed.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Barnacle
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Re: Lost Special
You are talking of extremes. I’ve never known anyone personally who was expelled from the union. I’ve known people who have left and have then had to wait to rejoin.tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025, 09:09Unions can and do discipline members. The CWU operates the archaic 'branching' system where members who don't do as their told get disciplined. The rulebook allows members to be disciplined and expelled.TrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025, 19:57I’m intrigued by your perspective. The CWU is a voluntarily joined organisation that provides invaluable guidance and negotiates on behalf of its members, whether advocating for an individual or representing the entire workforce, including non-members. Notably, their literature does not claim any disciplinary authority over members, even when they choose to ignore the union's advice. This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.tramssirhc wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025, 16:12
The CWU let's it's members do whatever they want despite knowing full well what that means when things go wrong. So yeah, the CWU is to blame.
The CWU guides, negotiates and represents it's members, no one else. Some of the agreements it negotiates cover matters that govern the contracts of all workers. No union, or at the least a proper trade union, represents non-members.
Let's be clear. It's a dereliction of duty to stand by and watch members put themselves in danger. In fact it's a breach of contract to stand by and watch anyone do anything they shouldn't. All workers are duty bound to speak up and speak out.
So yeah. Every time they CWU rep stands there and says nothing, it is the CWU's fault. That's collective responsibility for you. The same collective responsibility the CWU uses to branch it's members when they won't do what the 'collective' agreed.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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sindba
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Re: Lost Special
So wierd...tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025, 09:09Unions can and do discipline members. The CWU operates the archaic 'branching' system where members who don't do as their told get disciplined. The rulebook allows members to be disciplined and expelled.TrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑19 Dec 2025, 19:57I’m intrigued by your perspective. The CWU is a voluntarily joined organisation that provides invaluable guidance and negotiates on behalf of its members, whether advocating for an individual or representing the entire workforce, including non-members. Notably, their literature does not claim any disciplinary authority over members, even when they choose to ignore the union's advice. This brings to mind the timeless saying: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.tramssirhc wrote: ↑17 Dec 2025, 16:12
The CWU let's it's members do whatever they want despite knowing full well what that means when things go wrong. So yeah, the CWU is to blame.
The CWU guides, negotiates and represents it's members, no one else. Some of the agreements it negotiates cover matters that govern the contracts of all workers. No union, or at the least a proper trade union, represents non-members.
Let's be clear. It's a dereliction of duty to stand by and watch members put themselves in danger. In fact it's a breach of contract to stand by and watch anyone do anything they shouldn't. All workers are duty bound to speak up and speak out.
So yeah. Every time they CWU rep stands there and says nothing, it is the CWU's fault. That's collective responsibility for you. The same collective responsibility the CWU uses to branch it's members when they won't do what the 'collective' agreed.
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hewittinspain
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Lost Special
I've had a couple of incidents where I think I've had a special for a house and it's not in the van. I even went back to the office to see if I've left it but it turned out I totally imagined the whole thing and never had a special at all
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If I get more than 3 specials I write them down on paper and stick the paper into the CD slot (sticking out of course) so I know I'll never miss a deadline.
My specials always stay in it's tray and I make sure they are all there before I depart the office.
If I get more than 3 specials I write them down on paper and stick the paper into the CD slot (sticking out of course) so I know I'll never miss a deadline.
My specials always stay in it's tray and I make sure they are all there before I depart the office.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Lost Special
Done that with normal parcels never mind specials, days all merge into each other!hewittinspain wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026, 20:36I've had a couple of incidents where I think I've had a special for a house and it's not in the van. I even went back to the office to see if I've left it but it turned out I totally imagined the whole thing and never had a special at all.
If I get more than 3 specials I write them down on paper and stick the paper into the CD slot (sticking out of course) so I know I'll never miss a deadline.
My specials always stay in it's tray and I make sure they are all there before I depart the office.
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Mr Rush
- Posts: 3216
- Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 14:27
- Gender: Male
Re: Lost Special
I remember being told to keep SDs in my bag and never to store them in the pouch boxes - practical only if they were all letters, which they increasingly were not. I never adhered to that particular instruction even after a scare with a broken box key. These days the secure locker is a throughfare and the carded specials just sit in the open till the next morning.
The machine stops.
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Hitcher
- Posts: 1497
- Joined: 20 Sep 2009, 09:59
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Re: Lost Special
Just remembered I also got a warning because I delivered a Special at 1:03pm. 