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Low letter/flat mail volumes - GDPR, Summertime, or both?

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Low letter/flat mail volumes - GDPR, Summertime, or both?

Post by Celgar »

SpacePhoenix wrote:How big a difference in terms of the number of boxes of:

* Flats
* Manual Letters
* Sequenced Letters

for this week and for a normal week?
There is a noticeable drop in the amount of marketing/'junk mail' style Flats. Bundles seem to be just letters rather than a mix. I can't really be more specific than that so sorry for that. In previous summers I don't generally save that much time but this past week or two I have been saving quite a lot. This definitely hasn't happened in previous years when we get the same old **** guff from RM that volumes are down. It lines up with the implementation of GDPR so it would seem to much of a coincidence to not be correct.
On the subject of the GDPR isn't it the case that if a marketing company wishes to send you items in the post they have to get your permission first ?
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Post by Mr Blonde »

number one wrote: If things carry on we will end up marking packets we have letters for.
That comment deserves more recognition. I doff my cap to thee sire!
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

Things like catalogues they have to get the recpient's permission to send them now afaik, as well as any other marketing type stuff. Don't know if d2d are covered, possibly at some point people might need to opt-in to receive them. Don't know if senders or magazines or newsletters will ow have to get permission to send them, or if auto-renewel of them will now be illegal. Long term flat volumes might be a fair bit lower, will it be financially viable for RM to use the T2K machines, given the variety of packets and letters they shove through them now to justify their use.

If the drop-off is long term would it be more financially viable for RM to have dedicated packet duties?
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Post by Vwtouran »

Today was the quietest day I have seen in a long time, junk mail definitely down usually get screwfix magazines on a Monday but haven’t had them for a while. The office I work in is lapsing 3 duties at the moment & manager has said his boss wants to lapse more duties!
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

SpacePhoenix wrote: Don't know if d2d are covered, possibly at some point people might need to opt-in to receive them.
They aren't.

GDPR = General Data Protection Regulations

D2Ds have no Data that applies to this new legislation, letter, parcels and packets do. Which is why I think "Deliver to a Neighbour" is under question.
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Post by CPTNemoUK »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: Don't know if d2d are covered, possibly at some point people might need to opt-in to receive them.
They aren't.

GDPR = General Data Protection Regulations

D2Ds have no Data that applies to this new legislation, letter, parcels and packets do. Which is why I think "Deliver to a Neighbour" is under question.
Sorry for being a bit thick. But how is it affecting deliver to neighbour?
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Post by DrSatan »

CPTNemoUK wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: Don't know if d2d are covered, possibly at some point people might need to opt-in to receive them.
They aren't.

GDPR = General Data Protection Regulations

D2Ds have no Data that applies to this new legislation, letter, parcels and packets do. Which is why I think "Deliver to a Neighbour" is under question.
Sorry for being a bit thick. But how is it affecting deliver to neighbour?
Technically the letter or packet contains data of the recipient, in form of a name to that address. The recipient may not have given explicit consent to allow royal mail to share that information by giving the letter/parcel to another address, which would be sharing that data??

That's how I would see that.
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

That's it exactly. :thumbup :thumbup
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Post by oypostie »

They are supposed to get permission but i've noticed some companies have just switched to addressing it to "the homeowner". No personal data so presumably not covered !!
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Post by CPTNemoUK »

DrSatan wrote:
CPTNemoUK wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: Don't know if d2d are covered, possibly at some point people might need to opt-in to receive them.
They aren't.

GDPR = General Data Protection Regulations

D2Ds have no Data that applies to this new legislation, letter, parcels and packets do. Which is why I think "Deliver to a Neighbour" is under question.
Sorry for being a bit thick. But how is it affecting deliver to neighbour?
Technically the letter or packet contains data of the recipient, in form of a name to that address. The recipient may not have given explicit consent to allow royal mail to share that information by giving the letter/parcel to another address, which would be sharing that data??

That's how I would see that.
Thank you. I'm slightly less thick now :Very Happy
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Post by wacko74 »

Well last week in our office at least, was certainly looking like just one of them random freak light weeks that we get in the summer ... volumes have been well up this week and I've been going over every day.
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Post by crimson king »

wacko74 wrote:Well last week in our office at least, was certainly looking like just one of them random freak light weeks that we get in the summer ... volumes have been well up this week and I've been going over every day.
Yep, same here. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.
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