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2pints
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Post by 2pints »

Do we have to do them? I had wed and friday off and i did not have time to touch them on thursday and there was a huge tray full of them.If they are still there today i will not be happy.I only work my hours if i do any overtime i basically have to pay it back in tax credits the following year so i no longer bother.Surely these poll cards count as an optional extra like overtime?
Downeagle
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Post by Downeagle »

Ours came in on Thursday and we were told they must go out that day, I checked with area CWU rep and he agreed that it was one day because they came in as downstream access? 5p by the way.
Daniel-san
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Post by Daniel-san »

We were told by management we have 3 days to deliver Polling cards, we get paid 4.2p for each card,
We had to count each one and sign a sheet with the amount we've done, pay no etc...
We've now heard (hopefully just a rumour) that we'll not be being paid for it!!
it took effing ages to count them and sort & they weren't even sequenced!
whats the score?
greengiant
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Post by greengiant »

And it's going to be fun and games for those part timers who come in, and finish off prepping their own frame, let alone finishing off prepping the paired walk which is lapsed daily, before even touching polling cards.... :arrrghhh
SpacePhoenix
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

Daniel-san wrote:they weren't even sequenced!
whats the score?
No point in running them through the CSS, the CSS machines reject nearly all of them during the 2nd passes
Justanotherstar
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Post by Justanotherstar »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
Daniel-san wrote:they weren't even sequenced!
whats the score?
No point in running them through the CSS, the CSS machines reject nearly all of them during the 2nd passes
At least they come in sorted by the street, take weeks to do them if they were completely mixed!
kingeric
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Post by kingeric »

telithowitis wrote:We get 3p in our area due to some crazy union rep agreeing it years ago. It works out less than the minimum wage, therefore I leave them for those who want them to sort out. Also the 1.5 per adddress- who made that up, they get weighed and those who do them get the exact amount, frankly they are welcome to them.
How do you work out it's less than minimum wage?

I took all mine on friday. Around 1500. I think i went 25mins over my time. Lapsing was cancelled. So at 3p a card it works out at £45 extra for 25mins work.
Even if you look at the £45 you'd need it to take you around 6 hours past your time before it works out at less than minimum wage.
telithowitis
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Post by telithowitis »

kingeric wrote:
telithowitis wrote:We get 3p in our area due to some crazy union rep agreeing it years ago. It works out less than the minimum wage, therefore I leave them for those who want them to sort out. Also the 1.5 per adddress- who made that up, they get weighed and those who do them get the exact amount, frankly they are welcome to them.
How do you work out it's less than minimum wage?

I took all mine on friday. Around 1500. I think i went 25mins over my time. Lapsing was cancelled. So at 3p a card it works out at £45 extra for 25mins work.
Even if you look at the £45 you'd need it to take you around 6 hours past your time before it works out at less than minimum wage.
So you prepped all 1500 and added them into your delivery calling at every address on your frame and it took 25 mins!! You must be either some speedy or have a very easy round!
kingeric
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Post by kingeric »

telithowitis wrote:
kingeric wrote:
telithowitis wrote:We get 3p in our area due to some crazy union rep agreeing it years ago. It works out less than the minimum wage, therefore I leave them for those who want them to sort out. Also the 1.5 per adddress- who made that up, they get weighed and those who do them get the exact amount, frankly they are welcome to them.
How do you work out it's less than minimum wage?

I took all mine on friday. Around 1500. I think i went 25mins over my time. Lapsing was cancelled. So at 3p a card it works out at £45 extra for 25mins work.
Even if you look at the £45 you'd need it to take you around 6 hours past your time before it works out at less than minimum wage.
So you prepped all 1500 and added them into your delivery calling at every address on your frame and it took 25 mins!! You must be either some speedy or have a very easy round!
Yes.

As I said earlier lapsing was cancelled which normally takes 20-25mins and we had more part timers in early meaning we had a bit less indoor work. They were sorted by streets so throwing off was straight forward.

But even so it still isn't less than minimum wage. If it's added 6 hours onto my day then I'd be seriously looking at my performance
TrueBlueTerrier
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

I believe the concern is when you go over your time with the poll cards, and they aren't paying overtime, then you may go below the minimum wage.

However, it does all depend on how you calculate it, how many you deliver and how long it takes you.
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rambo1
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Post by rambo1 »

2pints wrote:Do we have to do them? I had wed and friday off and i did not have time to touch them on thursday and there was a huge tray full of them.If they are still there today i will not be happy.I only work my hours if i do any overtime i basically have to pay it back in tax credits the following year so i no longer bother.Surely these poll cards count as an optional extra like overtime?
So you think you're hard done to because if you do overtime you have to pay it back to the govt! Jeez that's what's bloody wrong with this country. Do the overtime and let royal mail pay you and leave the govt tax payers money to go where it's needed ie, repairing roads, NHS....... I could go on. Seems everyone now wants a free meal.