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stephen500
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Post by stephen500 »

woopesh wrote:Legacy payments? What do you get the extra £2288 for?
£20 ex PHG for loss of grade and marking time with pay till postmen caught up
£0.25 PBS bonus scheme
£9.30 processing supplement
£15 night allowance retention (ex Phg)
All per week.
robsbelly
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Post by robsbelly »

Wot the hell is giving back ownership of walk back to the postmen and women mean, Is there a possibility of it being franchised . Who knows with this lot.
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

Page 5, "4. OUR FUTURE"
"Ownership of a delivery route given back to the postman or woman".
So what does that mean, they can't move us off the route we've been on the last few years ? :Applause
wacko74
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Post by wacko74 »

Lounge Lizard wrote:Page 5, "4. OUR FUTURE"
"Ownership of a delivery route given back to the postman or woman".
So what does that mean, they can't move us off the route we've been on the last few years ? :Applause
Apart from when ''operational needs'' deem it necessary i.e. any time at all!
woopesh
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Post by woopesh »

robsbelly wrote:Wot the hell is giving back ownership of walk back to the postmen and women mean, Is there a possibility of it being franchised . Who knows with this lot.
I thought once people retired, their walks became "free" for lapsing / absorbtion / to be done by reserves so there is no duty holder. I thought it was Moyas vision to have floating staff able to do any walk?
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Post by lightningpostman »

Lounge Lizard wrote:Page 5, "4. OUR FUTURE"
"Ownership of a delivery route given back to the postman or woman".
So what does that mean, they can't move us off the route we've been on the last few years ? :Applause
no it means your banded with say 3-4 other individuals and when they pull a sickie or go on holiday you your 3 mates have to cover there duty unpaid
britwrit
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Post by britwrit »

No I'm positive that it means that you and your mates will be able to give each other as much overtime as you think you need. 10, 20, 30 hours a week. The sky's the limit.

In fact, since you own the walk, you'll be able to sublet it out to some desperate casual, pay ' em £6 an hour, and pocket the rest.

Get ready to retire that mortgage. And - never mind the Brexit - start on that retirement villa in Spain. The era of the blank cheque has arrived.
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

lightningpostman wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Page 5, "4. OUR FUTURE"
"Ownership of a delivery route given back to the postman or woman".
So what does that mean, they can't move us off the route we've been on the last few years ? :Applause
no it means your banded with say 3-4 other individuals and when they pull a sickie or go on holiday you your 3 mates have to cover there duty unpaid
No, it states "Ownership of a delivery route [singular] given back to the postman or woman [singular]". :shock:
So will it be just like abroad, all pre-sorted, dropped off at our house, delivered in our own car with our own fuel and any sickness or holiday is our problem, not Royal Mails ? :thumbdown
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Post by number one »

Those at the top need to realise they are only in a job because of us at the bottom. Like Royal Mail keep telling us they are not owed a living.
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

number one wrote:Those at the top need to realise they are only in a job because of us at the bottom. Like Royal Mail keep telling us they are not owed a living.
But those at the top are in control of the purse strings, and everything else. :sad:
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Post by datasaint »

It's all heading towards a strike. Far too many changes on the table, little to no incentive.
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Post by kingeric »

fishtank wrote:I don't think they've done themselves any favours with this thing, it's very poorly written and seems to be aimed at 5 year olds. A cash bribe will probably see the end of the legacy payments though, it always has in the past.
Very vague too.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
lightningpostman wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:Page 5, "4. OUR FUTURE"
"Ownership of a delivery route given back to the postman or woman".
So what does that mean, they can't move us off the route we've been on the last few years ? :Applause
no it means your banded with say 3-4 other individuals and when they pull a sickie or go on holiday you your 3 mates have to cover there duty unpaid
So will it be just like abroad, all pre-sorted, dropped off at our house, delivered in our own car with our own fuel and any sickness or holiday is our problem, not Royal Mails ? :thumbdown
But it says "given back" - assuming a return to a previous situation - like when we worked 6 days a week?
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Post by LouBarlow »

I've only just gotten round to reading this but seriously even the most hardened union man has to think asking for a shorter working week AND a pay rise is utterly ridiculous and makes them look naive beyond belief? Do they know what they are doing?
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

LouBarlow wrote:I've only just gotten round to reading this but seriously even the most hardened union man has to think asking for a shorter working week AND a pay rise is utterly ridiculous and makes them look naive beyond belief? Do they know what they are doing?
Yes in my opinion they do, no point in negotiating from a weakness. Especially with the current round have you seen what RM have put on the table, the Union have to counter that and giving up on a pay rise without a concession from the other side is a recipe for a rollover.

Basically, the pay rise has to be looked at as a part of the whole, not just a single issue all by itself. For once the CWU are playing hardball, good on them I say.
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