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Opting out of Shares

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clashcityrocker
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by clashcityrocker »

Theghost wrote: Refusing them is quite simply stupid
Is share trading/ownership halal?
Give your head a wobble and understand there are viewpoints different to your own.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Theghost
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by Theghost »

A Viewpoint is irrelevant in this issue,By opting out You are throwing money away,End of story,Your head needs a wobble not mine.
Shambles
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Re: Opting out of Shares

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:shock: Shambles backs out of the room cautiously, before the wobbly :chuckle heads start rolling :left:
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by dvbuk55 »

Shambles wrote::shock: Shambles backs out of the room cautiously, before the wobbly :chuckle heads start rolling :left:
:hmmmm I'm just wondering if perhaps there's a hidden agenda in there somewhere :chuckle :chuckle
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Re: Opting out of Shares

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dvbuk55 wrote:
Shambles wrote::shock: Shambles backs out of the room cautiously, before the wobbly :chuckle heads start rolling :left:
:hmmmm I'm just wondering if perhaps there's a hidden agenda in there somewhere :chuckle :chuckle

:chuckle sick puppy :chuckle
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barrowc
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by barrowc »

clashcityrocker wrote: Is share trading/ownership halal?
Give your head a wobble and understand there are viewpoints different to your own.
There's no problem having an ideological or moral opposition to share ownership in general and shares in Royal Mail in particular. If you are in any of the RM pension schemes, however, remember that a significant part of those are invested in shares. It's very difficult to completely avoid involvement in share ownership
veryn
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by veryn »

Im just very cynical. Theres always a problem sometime, somewhere down the line, I don't trust anyone
flaminmoses
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by flaminmoses »

if you cant sell the shares then they are not yours.....which ever way you look at it.

very much like the last lot of shares imo............they will more than likely be able to pull these at any time also.
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by maisymoo04 »

veryn wrote:So where is this 'free' money coming from exactly???

Im opting out

I just can't be arsed with it.

While on the subject, can someone confirm to me the address the opt out form goes to? I have an envelope here where all my clutter is,not sure if it came with the opt out form? The address is Aspect house, Lancing ?
It did in the SA envelope sign it and send it back easy :Boo hoo!
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blue1873
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by blue1873 »

dvbuk55 wrote:
Shambles wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
zx135 wrote:The government is intent on privatization, as part of that they are giving us free shares
Well in reality they aren't giving you free shares! If someone gives you something then they can't take it back, if they are your shares you should be able to sell them whenever you wish, if you leave the company under a cloud you lose them. Those restrictions don't apply to real customers buying shares, there is also the fact that the profits made to enable the sell off has been produced by the work force.

I'll be accepting the shares, who knows it may be a long shot but I won't be investing my own money - in the words of the Dragons in that instance I'm Out.

I'm buying £750 worth to send to Moya... ;liar :left:
Moya, my precious, pay no attention, Shambles is only joking - if you need money come to me ...........I'm sure we could reach an accommodation that would satisfy us both :angel
"Blondes have more fun" ?? :hmmmm
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by dvbuk55 »

blue1873 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Shambles wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
zx135 wrote:The government is intent on privatization, as part of that they are giving us free shares
Well in reality they aren't giving you free shares! If someone gives you something then they can't take it back, if they are your shares you should be able to sell them whenever you wish, if you leave the company under a cloud you lose them. Those restrictions don't apply to real customers buying shares, there is also the fact that the profits made to enable the sell off has been produced by the work force.

I'll be accepting the shares, who knows it may be a long shot but I won't be investing my own money - in the words of the Dragons in that instance I'm Out.

I'm buying £750 worth to send to Moya... ;liar :left:
Moya, my precious, pay no attention, Shambles is only joking - if you need money come to me ...........I'm sure we could reach an accommodation that would satisfy us both :angel
"Blondes have more fun" ?? :hmmmm
Not necessarily, and especially if the tablets haven't arrived :whistle
Morethan16KG
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by Morethan16KG »

An opt out option? Makes me wonder if they're counting on lots of people to do this :d'oh!
hgfonzy
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by hgfonzy »

By not opting out of the free shares offer employees will receive £2000 when they agree not to sue for unfair dismissal or been mistreated
Employees will also lose their redundancy protections as well as other rights

Therefore by creating a two tier workforce between those who have agreed or not agreed to exclude their employment rights would royal mail automatically select those who have excluded their rights when it comes to redundancy,performance related dismissals

So if you want to sell your soul for £2000 Crack on !
clashcityrocker
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by clashcityrocker »

hgfonzy wrote:By not opting out of the free shares offer employees will receive £2000 when they agree not to sue for unfair dismissal or been mistreated
Employees will also lose their redundancy protections as well as other rights

Therefore by creating a two tier workforce between those who have agreed or not agreed to exclude their employment rights would royal mail automatically select those who have excluded their rights when it comes to redundancy,performance related dismissals

So if you want to sell your soul for £2000 Crack on !
This is nonsense.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
hgfonzy
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Re: Opting out of Shares

Post by hgfonzy »

clashcityrocker wrote:
hgfonzy wrote:By not opting out of the free shares offer employees will receive £2000 when they agree not to sue for unfair dismissal or been mistreated
Employees will also lose their redundancy protections as well as other rights

Therefore by creating a two tier workforce between those who have agreed or not agreed to exclude their employment rights would royal mail automatically select those who have excluded their rights when it comes to redundancy,performance related dismissals

So if you want to sell your soul for £2000 Crack on !
This is nonsense.
Really, so why have the cwu posted it on their website? (3rd link down)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... borne.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... hts-scheme" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.cwu.org/royal-mail-privatisa ... offer.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Read it before you post silly comments,it's people like you that royal mail want to opt in !
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