So he started `allocating` leave when we don't want it...example a guy had his weeks annual leave,came back to work,Lino comes up to him " oh by the way your off next week." "no I have only just been off" "well your off next week as well" comes said reply from lino...they got away with this for a good bit until one of our more militant guys pointed out the Working Time Regs section 15,funny how the reps didn't `know` about them.
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not being allowed to book single days off.
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BoltonPostie
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
in our office it is impossible to book a day off(unless your a gaffers nark of course then you get what you want
)the result was that our office has over a 1000 days owing to us(I myself have 15 days owing
).....so eventually somebody from higher up the food chain told our DOM that he must do ANYTHING he can to reduce this figure!
So he started `allocating` leave when we don't want it...example a guy had his weeks annual leave,came back to work,Lino comes up to him " oh by the way your off next week." "no I have only just been off" "well your off next week as well" comes said reply from lino...they got away with this for a good bit until one of our more militant guys pointed out the Working Time Regs section 15,funny how the reps didn't `know` about them.

So he started `allocating` leave when we don't want it...example a guy had his weeks annual leave,came back to work,Lino comes up to him " oh by the way your off next week." "no I have only just been off" "well your off next week as well" comes said reply from lino...they got away with this for a good bit until one of our more militant guys pointed out the Working Time Regs section 15,funny how the reps didn't `know` about them.
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Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
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All for themselves
After all
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postman nel
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
Lounge Lizard wrote:- and you're still single ?postman nel wrote:A few years back i asked for a saturday off due to the fact i was getting married on that day..i was told because i was getting married at 4pm i would have plenty of time to get ready once i'd finished my walk so was refused the day.....![]()
Did get married....but looking back now maybe it could of been a sign...shhhh
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clashcityrocker
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
Do you think all reps know everything at all times?BoltonPostie wrote:Working Time Regs section 15,funny how the reps didn't `know` about them.![]()
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BoltonPostie
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
No I don't expect reps to know everything, but the working Regs are pretty much a major thing in employment mattersclashcityrocker wrote:Do you think all reps know everything at all times?BoltonPostie wrote:Working Time Regs section 15,funny how the reps didn't `know` about them.![]()
We're all fallible. Unless you are the Pope?
The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
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clashcityrocker
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
At no point in my training were working time regulations mentioned.
At no time was there a pool competition either.
Training and education are an ongoing thing.
They are also a 2 way thing.
There is rarely a single issue. Your rep is dealing with multiple issues.
In order to get anywhere there has to be a certain amount of give and take.
I have lost count of the time people have complained about the number of days owing to them but haven't actually bothered to request any of them.
It also isn't realistic to expect all those outstanding days are going to be given as Saturdays
At no time was there a pool competition either.
Training and education are an ongoing thing.
They are also a 2 way thing.
There is rarely a single issue. Your rep is dealing with multiple issues.
In order to get anywhere there has to be a certain amount of give and take.
I have lost count of the time people have complained about the number of days owing to them but haven't actually bothered to request any of them.
It also isn't realistic to expect all those outstanding days are going to be given as Saturdays
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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UnhappyGremlin
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
See, that's the problem with staff. We're all me, me, me, self, self, self.postman nel wrote:A few years back i asked for a saturday off due to the fact i was getting married on that day..i was told because i was getting married at 4pm i would have plenty of time to get ready once i'd finished my walk so was refused the day.....
Can I have a day off to get married? What do you think this is? A charity?
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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TheCobra
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
Haha, I'd have just took the day off sick. Screw 'em.UnhappyGremlin wrote:See, that's the problem with staff. We're all me, me, me, self, self, self.postman nel wrote:A few years back i asked for a saturday off due to the fact i was getting married on that day..i was told because i was getting married at 4pm i would have plenty of time to get ready once i'd finished my walk so was refused the day.....
Can I have a day off to get married? What do you think this is? A charity?![]()
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bej888
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
not only are holidays being deleted from computor records to maximise staff after granting holidays days owing are not being given in our office so 3 to 6 weeks owing is the norm in our office
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: not being allowed to book single days off.
If 3 weeks is coming from 1 year then the Manager is denying you your statutory rights and the Area Rep and perhaps even HQ need to get involved.bej888 wrote:not only are holidays being deleted from computor records to maximise staff after granting holidays days owing are not being given in our office so 3 to 6 weeks owing is the norm in our office
(or as the government says) https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement- ... ntitlement" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The statutory entitlement each year is 28 days
Most workers who work a 5-day week, must receive 28 days paid annual leave per year. This is calculated by multiplying a normal week (5 days) by the annual entitlement of 5.6 weeks.
8 days bank holiday can be included in the 28 days which complicates matters - however you are statutorily entitled to take a minimum of 20 days plus the 8 bank holidays and they must be on shaky legal, and H&S grounds if they are not allowing people to take even the basic minimum.
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