seeking work with the royal mail but CRB may go against me

[MrPPatt]

I started as a half-timer on 3 month contract, 6 months ago and definitely did not sign the Official Secrets Act

Patt :]

[rmdriver]

Hi all
I have been contacted about the potential of an interview as a postie.
However...

I know that I will be going through a CRB check and am worried my last job will go against me. I was a teacher at a sixth form college and trained actor (have been for the past 20+ years) and had never been disciplined throughout my entire working life. Then in March-April this year I was suspended twice for allegations made by some students which the college then took as being acts of gross misconduct! I knew (still know) these allegations were lies but the college stood firm and HR advised it would be better for me to consider resignation rather than face potential dismissal. I therefore resigned. This now, I am sure, would go onto my CRB and therefore stop me from being a postie!

Are there any of you out there who could help me on this please? Would this now mean the RM wouldnt take me on?

Help please!

Thank you

Nothing will show on a CRB unless you have been convicted by a court. Your previous employer should not disclose the reason for your resignation with Rm and as you have not been found guilty of an offence by a court they should not disclose any details of allegations made against you either or you can have them for it.

[mailmonkey]

I'm an ex-lecturer, turned postie and very happy with it thanks.

One of my colleagues at the college (at the time of joining he'd had a CRB) had a new "enhanced" CRB check throw up a police caution for class A drug possession some years previous to his employment.

He resigned, he had thought that caution had lapsed, or was irrelevant.

He's now a postie too! And finding life much less stressful. So either RM don't do proper CRB checks, or they use discretion.

[fmrPOSTIE]

Everyone signs the Official Secrets act. Its a blue bit of paper at the induction!

[baldrick]

I think only convictions for dishonesty - theft or fraud, would affect employment with Royal Mail.

[MrPPatt]

Everyone signs the Official Secrets act. Its a blue bit of paper at the induction!

Yeah - I checked with a starter who had been there with me. We did sign it - oops

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Don't worry they take anybody these days

Just watch C4 Despatch



Seriously you don't have anything to worry about, if its not recorded, no dramas, no conviction or caution etc, you will be getting standard CRB disclosure, not enhanced CRB which is more for working with children and vulnerable adults, TBH I don't see the relevance of CRB to a Postie job, security clearance is more important as you are covered by the Official Secrets Act, I had to sign one when I joined up, I don't know if they still do now.

No don't think so, I don't recall signing it when I started ten years ago although I have lost a lot of brain cells since then?

I had to and I joined about 8 years ago. Its a green piece of paper or at least mine was as I insisted on keeping a copy.

[Indy]

Then in March-April this year I was suspended twice for allegations made by some students which the college then took as being acts of gross misconduct!

Hmmm...... RM might be swayed if not by the CRB check but by your employment record. You haven't said WHAT exactly you were alleged to have done but I guess most people have read between the lines and could have a pretty good guess. Also why resign if you hadn't done whats been alleged? you might very well be innocent but it STINKS all the same.

It all looks a bit iffy and RM might think why take the risk.... there are plenty of other people out there desperate for a job.

[clashcityrocker]

you will be getting standard CRB disclosure, not enhanced CRB which is more for working with children and vulnerable adults,

Given that we deliver to primary schools etc shouldn't the enhanced CRB be the norm?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

you will be getting standard CRB disclosure, not enhanced CRB which is more for working with children and vulnerable adults,

Given that we deliver to primary schools etc shouldn't the enhanced CRB be the norm?

Don't think so as it comes under incidental contact rather than prolonged or persistent.

[NWpostie]

you will be getting standard CRB disclosure, not enhanced CRB which is more for working with children and vulnerable adults,

Given that we deliver to primary schools etc shouldn't the enhanced CRB be the norm?

Don't think so as it comes under incidental contact rather than prolonged or persistent.

Correct, the most we will be doing is going to the reception and dropping the mail off any contact with children is minimal, common sense should also prevail.

[jonluc]

well lets put it this way - one allegation was that a female student reckoned I had revealed my chest to her in a class full of other students (some of whom also went with her while others said it was lies). College then wouldnt believe me when I said the classroom was next to the staffroom so why the hell would I do something stupid like that. once that hearing was over I was then put on a final written warning as they just went with the student allegation (they never back the teacher by the way), and the second allegation was for a bawdy play from the 17th century I was directing. all the students had to do was to suggest they were getting up to no good by making sounds from off stage. of course, there were then some students who went to the HR department and said I was wanting them to have sex, that I was forcing rape on them... and HR went for it, I was called in for another hearing and was advised then to resign rather than be dismissed so what option do you have? They reckoned that it looked begtter than me being dismissed. In the 20+ years of me dealing with youngsters I have never been called into question apart from these 2 allegations which took place one after the other in March/April and straight away it was college believing students and not teacher. The girl from the first incident even told me afterwards she was sorry and that things had been blown out proportion!!!!!! when i told HR this they ignored it!

So what do you do when these bombshells hit you! and there's a little one on the way!

Cheers for the positive replies

[NWpostie]

The day will come when there are no Teachers .............................



we're doomed

[dvbuk55]

The day will come when there are no Teachers .............................



we're doomed

You mean they'll be working less hours and weeks than they do now

[Judgee]

The day will come when there are no Teachers .............................



we're doomed

You mean they'll be working less hours and weeks than they do now

I think teachers deserve all thier holdiays now, must take them a while to recover from dealing with all those horrible kids!